Kirby - I can't see where you did anything wrong or any need make any kind
of an apology.
Unless the full texts of these emails - from both sides - is posted (here
and not "extracts" on NSF as I have seen), and transcripts of the phone
calls, then there is now so much hearsay, that whatever or not this guy did
or said, and whatever Andrea did or said has gone way beyond the pale of
this dicussion group and ethics of any kind, I'm appalled and it takes
something serious for that.
Scott, this whole thing needs deleting in my opinion, and needs to be sorted
out bewteen the parties involved. If the abusive emails are what has been
stated and without provocation, then surely it's time to call law
enforcement in.
Gee, and I thought NSF could get spikey and vicious.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "McDaniel Kirby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Freedom Lover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Halegua Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Patrick Tupy Michael"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Phil Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: CLOUTIER debacle
> Andrea, I called him ONCE this morning and told him there was a
> discusssion about him
> on MOPO and that it wasn't very favorable to him, and that it was in his
> interest to know this. This was the first time I have
> spoken to him in more than a few years. He said he did not know what
> MOPO was
> and so I told him that MOPO was a discussion group and that he was being
> discussed
> and not in a good light and that he might want to address this.
>
> I probably should have minded my own business. I certainly did not
> understand all this. Sending abusive and threatening e-mail and name
> calling is utterly reprehensible and I strongly condemn this
> behavior toward you or anyone.
>
> All good wishes,
> Kirby
>
> On Oct 28, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Freedom Lover wrote:
>
>> Thank-you. Well, I shared those emails with Claude, too. That's it.
>> There's more that arrived later. Wow! He called 3 more times tonight.
>> And replied to different emails from days before, that had been
>> previously answered. I'm thinking of buying a pit bull!
>>
>> So let me see if I'm getting this right:
>>
>> This morning he emailed saying he was sending my poster back, undone
>> (again). This is good.
>>
>> Later he starts harassing the he** out of me with his vulgarity and
>> incessant phone calls and leaves a message that he's keeping my poster
>> (suddenly backed) and I assumed that included my money. This is an
>> about face.
>>
>> Kirby, is it from you calling him?
>>
>> I lost more than Richie, folks. Hey, if I'm going to lose my poster, I
>> may as well have some good come out of it. I'm glad to be of service to
>> you and I thank those of you who've stood up for me and those who spoke
>> about their own experiences with Chris.
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:
>>
>>> well that's equally onerous to the language that he used in the letter
>>> to Andrea that she shared with me as well as sue
>>>
>>> the one where he calls her a "C"
>>>
>>> I think he should start there. I mean, I don't think I've used that
>>> word in front of a woman since I was a sophomore in hi-school and I
>>> most certainly have never used it AT a woman in my entire life.
>>> Behavior of that nature is much more telling than anything Chris could
>>> say here..
>>>
>>> but like I said.. I had my single experience with Posterfix in 2004,
>>> and based on that single experience I determined they were not worthy
>>> of any further business . It was a $50 lesson for me and $50 worth of
>>> bad advertising for Posterfix
>>>
>>> Rich==============
>>>
>>>
>>> At 05:42 PM 10/28/2008, Freedom Lover wrote:
>>>> Well then, I'd like Chris to explain to MoPo how he decided he gets to
>>>> keep my poster AND my money because I told MoPo about all this. He
>>>> left me a voice message. Actually, he called my house 30 times today.
>>>>
>>>> Start there, Counselor.
>>>>
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:21 PM, McDaniel Kirby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wait a minute. Kangaroo Court in now in session.
>>>>>
>>>>> All rise!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have telephoned Chris Cloutier and alerted him to the brou-ha-ha
>>>>> on MOPO. I suggested he get in touch
>>>>> with mopo to address the concerns. He said he would.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't have a dog in this hunt. We use different restorers.
>>>>> Understand that this is not a comment
>>>>> on Chris or his work, it's just a fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirby McDaniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirby McDaniel
>>>>> MovieArt Original Film Posters
>>>>> P.O. Box 4419
>>>>> Austin TX 78765-4419
>>>>> 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net
>>>>> mobile 512 589 5112
>>>>>
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