I also might help ebay, if it did SOMETHING for its PowerSellers instead
of constantly sh*tting on them. FRANC

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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] eBay finally admits defeat, to return focus to
secondary goods


if they get back to their roots... they *could* once again regain some
footing in all areas, including movie posters...  

whether that will even happen, remains to be seen.--THAT will be the
key--unless it is already too late.

jeff






On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:


It's hilarious.. they just keep making mistakes and they're going to
make one more because they just don't realize the core problem

that ebay as a major force is finished.

They entered the American lexicon to become a household name
now they're like last year's fashions

I'll be having a good laugh at this.. I'm sure Bruce will too. And Unca
Phil..

LOLOLOLOLOLOL



At 02:33 AM 3/12/2009, David Kusumoto wrote:


On the front page this morning in NY.  -d.
 
 
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EBay Retreats in Web Retailing 
Company Will Return to Its Roots as Internet Flea Market, Put More Focus
on PayPal
By GEOFFREY
<http://online.wsj.com/search/search_center.html?KEYWORDS=GEOFFREY+A.+FO
WLER&ARTICLESEARCHQUERY_PARSER=bylineAND> A. FOWLER, WALL STREET JOURNAL
- PAGE ONE - THU., MAR. 12, 2009

     EBay Inc., a onetime Internet star that thrived with its pioneering
auction model, is retreating from its strategy of competing across the
board in online retailing as it contends with its own missteps and
changing consumer behavior.
     EBay Chief Executive John Donahoe told analysts Wednesday that the
San Jose, Calif., company plans to focus its online-marketplace business
on used and overstocked goods, rather than on the retail market for new
goods that is dominated by competitors such as Amazon.com Inc.
     EBay's visitor traffic fell over the recent holiday season and the
company reported a 16% drop in fourth-quarter revenue for its
marketplace business. 
     The online-marketplace business constitutes about half of eBay's
$8.5 billion in annual revenue.
     EBay's focus on its "secondary market" includes the used and
vintage goods that the company is already known for selling, as well as
clearance and out-of-season items. 
     The move is a shift from just a few years ago when eBay developed
sites such as eBay Express to sell new goods, and when many in the
retail industry expected eBay to dominate all forms of online commerce.
     "We aren't a retailer," said Mr. Donahoe, who took over as CEO from
Meg Whitman early last year. "We're going to focus where we can win." 
     Mr. Donahoe valued the global market for secondary-market goods,
online and otherwise, at $500 billion a year.
     EBay spent Wednesday trying to persuade analysts that it is no
longer just an online auction company and that its greatest hopes for
growth rest in PayPal, an online payment company it acquired in 2002
that is able to benefit from overall growth in e-commerce, not just
sales on eBay's sites. 
     It announced a deal with Research in Motion Ltd. for PayPal to
become the exclusive payment method for the application store on
BlackBerry smart phones.
     Still, the move amounts to an acknowledgment by eBay that it can't
compete with Amazon and other e-commerce companies that represent the
online equivalent of a shopping mall. 
     Instead, eBay is returning to its roots as the Web's flea market by
focusing on used and overstocked items, albeit with an effort to rethink
the classic eBay shopping interface that has grown stale in recent
years. 
     EBay had taken off as an early leader in e-commerce in the late
1990s with an auction model that guaranteed consumers could find the
best price on many used and leftover items.
     But in the last few years, eBay has been felled by a shift in
consumer behavior as shoppers revert to the buying habits that were
familiar in the pre-Internet era. 
     Before the Web, typical consumers preferred going straight to
brand-name stores selling new goods, with the best customer service, to
purchase the latest goods. 
     The growth of malls across the nation reflected this preference;
flea markets and thrift shops were a small sliver of commerce.
     For a while, eBay appeared to cause a blip in that behavior, as new
online consumers went to its site to snag deals by outbidding other
people. 
     But as the novelty of online auctions wore off -- and as the
demographic of online shoppers broadened beyond the adventurous "early
adopters" -- consumers began defaulting to huge online retailers like
Amazon.com, Buy.com and Wal-Mart.com to buy their items. 
     EBay, too, began shifting its focus to fixed-price sales but wasn't
able to keep up with the competition on mainstream retail items.
     EBay also is dealing with its own fumbles, many under the
leadership of Ms. Whitman, the former CEO. 
     The company rested too long on the laurels of its auction business,
even as rivals like Amazon built their online retail offerings. 
     EBay later tried to diversify into other areas for growth,
purchasing Internet telephone service Skype Technologies SA for about
$2.6 billion in cash and stock in 2005. But the deal didn't result in
major revenue or customer growth. EBay later took a write-off on the
acquisition, and there has been speculation the company wants to sell
Skype. EBay has declined to comment on the speculation.
     In addition, eBay is being hurt by the recession. 
     As consumers searched for online deals during the recent holiday
shopping season, many gravitated to Amazon.com, which experienced a big
jump in visitor traffic and posted a record holiday quarter. 
     But eBay -- which had benefited in the dot-com bust and economic
slowdown earlier this decade when many consumers dumped used goods for
sale on the site -- saw a drop in traffic, according to figures from
comScore Inc.
     EBay has been scrambling to reverse its slowing growth. 
     After Ms. Whitman retired last year, her handpicked successor, Mr.
Donahoe, made a series of changes. These included emphasizing
fixed-price sales and giving preference to merchants who get positive
customer ratings.
     But the changes have yet to pay off. 
     EBay reported its first-ever quarterly revenue decline, 7%, in the
fourth quarter as profit fell 31%. 
     Increasingly, eBay has relied for growth on its nonmarketplace
businesses, such as its PayPal unit, which has doubled in revenue over
the past 18 months.
     EBay's emphasis on the secondary market is an "attempt to
differentiate themselves from Amazon," said Scot Wingo, the chief
executive of ChannelAdvisor Corp., a company that helps merchants sell
across a variety of e-commerce sites, including eBay and Amazon. (EBay
has a minority share in the company.) 
     "It was an admission that they have a competitor out there that
they previously wouldn't address," Mr. Wingo said.
     An Amazon spokesman declined to comment.
     As part of its sharpened focus, eBay Wednesday sketched out changes
to its marketplace to help bring back shoppers who have migrated to
other sites. 
     The company said it is refining its search engine and developing a
catalog of its products, which will let shoppers find what they're
looking for more easily and choose from different colors or sizes of an
item from a single page. 
     EBay also is experimenting with new interfaces that enable shoppers
to explore products via photos, based on similarities in color or style.
     Such moves, along with growth at PayPal, should boost revenue to
between $10 billion and $12 billion in 2011 from $8.5 billion last year,
the company said. 
     EBay executives said they expect operating earnings to grow by
mid-single digits through 2011.
     Still, the company predicted this year will be difficult. 
     Its 2011 revenue goal and prediction that operating earnings would
grow in the single digits "assumes that the global economy returns to
some sense of normalcy," said eBay Chief Financial Officer Bob Swan.
     Mr. Donahoe predicted PayPal will produce revenue of $4 billion to
$5 billion by 2011, compared with $2.4 billion last year, and could
become the largest portion of eBay's business.
     EBay also warned that, as it makes changes to its marketplace,
sales in that business will underperform that of other e-commerce
companies this year. 
     The company forecast its online-marketplace unit will generate $5
billion to $7 billion in revenue by 2011, suggesting sales could remain
flat from $5.6 billion last year.
     Mr. Donahoe didn't name companies that he had wooed into using eBay
for secondary-market sales, but signaled that they might include some
middle-market players that buy overstocked items in bulk. 
     He said his company's "sweet spot is as much with intermediaries as
with retailers."
     Analysts were receptive to eBay's emphasis on the secondary market.
"But it comes down to executing on them," said John Aiken, an analyst
with Majestic Research.  "If they can make the buyer experience
incrementally better, there will be more buyers, and therefore more
sellers."



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