Burn the posters or the vile pond scum who sell them as originals? You were not clear!
Bruce On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Dave Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: > I say burn 'em... > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Lieberman <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:23 PM > *Subject:* [MOPO] Attention STAR WARS Collectors: FREE Star Wars Style A > 77/21-0 bootleg > > > Hello everyone. > > I'm sure most of you are sick of hearing about these bootlegs.....but here > is some information some of you may appreciate. > > We recently acquired 600 (2 original undisturbed rolls of 300) STAR WARS > Style A 77/21-0 "first printing" bootlegs from a dealer who purchased them > direct from the source (J. Seymour) *back in 1989*. As soon as she > realized she was burned and that they weren't real, she put them in a closet > and tried to forget about them. She realized she should have known better, > that it was too good to be true. She sent them to us in January 2009. They > are mostly all in Near Mint to Mint unused condition. > > We are offering them *FREE* to anyone who requests one. > > We have stamped the back of each one a few times with a 1/2" x 2" permanent > ink stamp that says: "*THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER*". This will > make it extremely difficult for anyone to mistake them for originals (or to > possibly try and pass them off as such) at some time in the future. If some > idiot tries to linen back one to hide the stamps, I would expect (and hope) > that the linen backer will be honest and do the right thing and NOT do it. > > Again, we are offering these *FREE* to anyone who requests one. *One per > person* *while supplies last*. All we ask is that you pay $9.95 for > shipping. We ship in a high quality plastic tube by Priority mail. If you'd > like one of these "original bootlegs" please just email us and we will send > you a paypal invoice. *We will also include one for free to anyone who > orders a rolled poster from our store or to anyone who wins one of our > current ebay auctions *(you must request it though when ordering and it > must be a rolled poster that you win). > > Over the years we have auctioned this bootleg (correctly described as a > bootleg) on ebay at no reserve 3 or 4 times with prices ranging from $30.00 > to $80.00. > > These are THE SAME EXACT posters currently being sold by others on ebay > (wrongly described as originals) for over $100.00. > > If any of you crazy skeptics think we are doing this to make > money.....please do the math....$2.00 for a tube, $6.00 for postage, $1.00 > for my employee labor for packaging time, $.85 to paypal. > > *Why are we doing this?* > > 1. It would be silly to destroy them (we get requests for them all the > time). We did actually consider burning them and filming the video for our > website and youtube (wouldn't that be neat!). > > 2. It is an extremely high quality rolled one sheet.....just as nice as the > original....in every way. > > 3. It is a much more affordable alternative (*FREE!*) compared to buying > an original rolled one (over $1000.00) or compared to buying one of these > bootlegs on ebay for over $100.00. > > 4. It will help to educate collectors. > > 5. Like it or not, they are a part of movie poster collecting history. > > 6. It could possibly help to diminish the market for them. Of course it > won't stop all newbies from getting stung on ebay (no one can stop that I'm > afraid). > > 7. Because we can. It is our little way of saying "Thank You" to the movie > poster collecting world! > > > *A little history:* > > Whatever one wishes to call these.....fakes, bootlegs. reproductions, > reprints, unauthorized restrikes, counterfeits........one thing is certain. > They are *not* original movie posters. > > Back in the late 1980's someone got their hands on the original printing > elements for 3 Star Wars one sheets. The Style A version 77/21-0, The Style > B Teaser Advance, and the Style C International. They illegally printed > untold thousands of posters. The quality of them is first class, they are > extremely convincing!! They were most likely printed at the same place where > the originals were (an NSS printing facility), except it was done "after > hours" by unscrupulous employees. > > These were peddled by a guy named J. Seymour to poster dealers around the > world for about $5.00 to $7.00 each. They were described as "originals". > Some dealers were fooled, some knew they weren't real....but bought them > anyway, and some refused to have anything to do with them. > > The Official Star Wars fan club actually purchased several thousand of the > fake Style A's back in the late 1980's believing they were real. They even > distributed many of them to members!! As soon as they found out they > weren't authentic one sheets they stopped distributing them and were most > likely destroyed. > > Lucasfilm eventually got wind of all this and went after the guy who was > selling them. > > Usually, reprints are undersized. Not these. They all measure a full 27" x > 41". > > There are subtle printing defects / differences between originals and > reprints. On the Style A there is a small "hair" right below Luke's belt > (there are a few other differences as well but that is the one everyone > focuses on), on the Style B Teaser the GAU printing union logo on the bottom > border is missing, and on the Style C there is a small "hair" on Leia's > back. The paper quality is first rate as well, we see virtually no real > difference when comparing fakes to originals except that the paper may be > ever so slightly thicker on the fakes. Some have said that the fakes have a > different sheen. If they do it is very slight. > > As of March 2009, these 3 fakes are still being sold on ebay (described > as originals) by several shady poster dealers. Prices are usually between > $100.00 to $200.00. (Original rolled near mint unused Star Wars one sheets > routinely sell for over $1000.00). These dealers usually swear up and down > that the reprints are real.....that they are an alternate printing, or from > a warehouse find, or a garbage run from the factory etc., etc, etc. Their > excuse always seems plausible. They know they are not real, yet they really > don't care. > > Since word about these fakes has spread and it has become common knowledge > in the collecting community (and thus, more difficult to sell), these shady > dealers have begun to lightly fold them, put pin holes in them, and even get > them linen backed to try and make them appear more authentic. > > Why doesn't ebay stop them? Ebay is in no position to police the poster > world. How do you expect them to determine what is real and what is not? > Unless they are ever contacted by Lucasfilm (which we really don't see > happening as they closed the book on this 20 years ago) the rip off of new > Star Wars collectors will continue. > > Every now and then a collector will send us one of these fakes for us to > put on consignment. We will sell it for what it truly is.....properly > described as NOT an original movie poster. We get requests all the time from > collectors who would like to see one in person, to have one for reference. > We usually do not have any in stock. > > This fake Style A 77/21-0 is an extremely high quality bootleg poster. It > has fooled practically every major auction house in the past as well as most > of the top poster dealers. > > > Now available for *FREE!!* > > > > > *David Lieberman* > CineMasterpieces.com <http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/> | 15721 N. > Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260 > *Vintage Original Movie Posters* | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery Open By > Appt. Only. > > ------------------------------ > *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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