** I was aware of Vanessa Redgrave's controversial history but purposely stayed 
clear of it; I wanted to comment on her beauty in 1967 and the original image 
that appears on the "Isadora" poster that Bruce is selling tonight on his 
website.  Using the Oscars to push a cause on a world stage took hold after 
Brando and "The Godfather" and has remained ever since.  Screenwriter Paddy 
Chayefsky was sick of this "trend" -- and after winning a Best Screenplay award 
for "Network" at the 1978 Oscars -- after Vanessa had won her award for Best 
Supporting Actress for "Julia" -- he famously told the audience, "I would like 
to say that I'm sick and tired of people exploiting the Academy Awards for the 
propagation of their own personal propaganda.  I would like to suggest to Miss 
Redgrave that her winning an Academy Award is not a pivotal moment in history, 
does not require a proclamation and a simple ‘Thank you' would have sufficed."  

 

** As Channing noted earlier, Redgrave, now 72, has long since toned down 
mixing her work with art; she has repeatedly clarified her remarks from 30 
years ago and has been honored by UNICEF, GLAAD and other groups for her work 
on behalf of freeing Soviet Jews and anything aimed at promoting human rights.

 

** The thing I find striking about Redgrave is her lack of vanity -- she, like 
the once beautiful Jeanne Moreau -- has aged gracefully without surgery or 
excessive makeup -- thus avoiding mean-spirited comparisons foisted upon stars 
better known for beauty than talent, e.g., Brigitte Bardot and the like.

 

** Earlier there was a discussion of type-casting -- and the first person that 
popped into my head is Woody Allen, who will never escape the nebbish image 
he's carried for more than 40 years.  But in some circles, will be better known 
for marrying Mia Farrow's adopted daughter.  But I like his work anyway, esp. 
from 1975-1989.  I try to separate what people do off-screen -- from their work 
on-screen.  (It's more difficult when pondering anti-Semitic clowns like Mel 
Gibson, but I try.)  During the 1960s and 1970s, actresses like Jane Fonda and 
Redgrave were transformative chameleons on screen, and I didn't care what they 
did off-screen.  I saw every picture Fonda did from "They Shoot Horses, Don't 
They?" to "The China Syndrome" -- and thought she was gold.  

 

** Meanwhile -- again, I am not posting attachments to the MoPo list.  They are 
not allowed.  They are low-resolution web-hosted images, permitted by Scott.  

 

** And finally, my vote for the funniest parent is my Dad.  He used to threaten 
us with a belt during a time when it wasn't considered child abuse to spank 
your kids.  He used to exaggerate and say, "if you kids don't behave I'll hit 
you so hard that you won't be able to stand up."  (He never did.)  He swore 
like a sailor and used to crack us up by timing his bursts of intestinal gas to 
amplify a point, e.g., "I'm not telling you kids again -- get your rooms 
cleaned up right -- (fart) -- NOW!  It was easy to comply when you're laughing 
your a**es off.  It was crude, but when you're a kid, sophisticated humor is 
for the birds.  Runner-up funniest parent would be Eugene Levy in those 
American Pie movies.  Levy has remarked with satisfaction that he's more 
admired and recognized -- and constantly mobbed by kids for that role -- than 
for all of his previous work combined.  He doesn't have to say anything in 
those movies; just his expressions and discomfort have me in stitches.

 

-kuz.

 

-----Original Message----- 

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:24:16 -0500
From: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Vanessa Redgrave's controversy at the Oscars-- a link to the story
To: [email protected] 


 
I think Vanessa was not someone I would have liked to know personally. As the 
story says, "She was once married to director Tony Richardson who once said 
about her, 'Vanessa Redgrave is controversial, her enemies hate her, and her 
friends dislike her.'
 
That is reminscent of the great line in "Inherit the Wind" where the H.L. 
Mencken facsimile character says about the William Jennings Bryan facsimile 
character "He doesn't have an enemy in the world; only his friends hate him"!
 
Bruce


On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Joseph Bonelli <[email protected]> wrote:






 
Hi, Andrea, et. al., from Joe B in NOLA
 
As you've brought up the most controversial moment from Vanessa Redgrave's 
career, I think that the story needs to be posted.  Here's the story-- albeit 
in a not-completely-objective article:
 
http://www.super70s.com/super70s/Movies/1977/Redgrave_Zionism_Speech.asp
 
Whether or not one agrees with Redgrave's politics on the matter of a 
Palestinian homeland, the facts are clear:  Vanessa did not make a "nasty 
comment about Jews." She decried the demonstrations outside.  I remember the 
show vividly and the story, though not objectively, reports what was said 
accurately.
 
Joe
 
PS-- Once again, I repeat Toochis' admonishment to drop political discussions 
on MOPO.  I agree and only posted this to get the facts down in reference to 
the Redgrave Oscar speech. 
 
Joe
 
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Andrea Kanter <[email protected]> wrote:



From: ANDREA KANTER <[email protected]>

Date: March 25, 2009 8:17:20 AM EDT

To: David Kusumoto <[email protected]>

Cc: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: The Ravishing/Stunning Vanessa Redgrave

I worked the Academy Awards 'satellite' at Studio 54 in the late 70's.  The 
awards were simulcast there.  One of the Redgrave sisters made a nasty remark 
about Jews during her camera-time that silenced Studio 54 and, I assume, the 
room she was in in Hollywood.  After that, I rarely saw her.  I believe it was 
Vanessa.  Does anyone know? 


Andrea


On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:08 AM, David Kusumoto wrote:


** Every once in awhile, I'll read a news story that sends me off looking in 
wildly different directions, researching names and back-stories, etc.  
 
** Well, the other day, in the aftermath of the tragic death of Natasha 
Richardson, I started thinking of her mother, Vanessa Redgrave.  The day before 
Natasha died, we coincidentally sat down to re-watch Vanessa's 2007 performance 
in "Atonement," the wonderful film adaptation of Ian McEwan's 2001 British 
novel that covers the impact of a childhood lie on three people from its 
beginnings in 1935 -- to the present day.  She's only in the last 10 minutes, 
but she steals the picture with her horrifying confession.
 
** Most Generation X'ers, Y'ers and New Millennials know little to nothing 
about Vanessa Redgrave -- who since the 1970s, has been relegated to supporting 
character roles in films -- occasionally broken up by a lead role on stage, 
e.g., her recent appearance in the short-run Broadway adaptation of Joan 
Didion's "The Year of Magical Thinking," a memoir which won the National Book 
Award that covers Didion's clinical observations and detachment -- dealing with 
the sudden loss of husband John Gregory Dunne and the impending loss of her 
daughter Quintana -- in a horrific span of about 18 months.  
 
** Paging through Vanessa's life, I was reminded what a ravishing beauty she 
was, a stunning actress who made a big splash in art films like "Blow-Up," 
"Morgan!" and "Isadora" -- the latter two for which she received Academy Award 
nominations for Best Actress.  But the image of Vanessa that sticks in my head 
is NOT the one more commonly seen in Antonioni's "Blow Up."  No, it's the image 
of a naked Vanessa on the very affordable one-sheet from from the lesser-known 
film directed by Karel Reisz, "Isadora," later edited and re-titled, "The Loves 
of Isadora," the bio-pic about dancer Isadora Duncan.  (Which almost eerily -- 
and coincidentally -- also offered this week by Bruce Hershenson, closing later 
tonight on his website.)
 
** I've always been curious about the origin of the photo used on that poster 
because it's not in the film (though the free-love sexual behavior of her 
character is on full display).  Well, yesterday, I read an AP story about a 
photo to be auctioned March 30th by Sotheby's purporting to be the earliest 
known image of lower Manhattan.  The photo is dull and unremarkable.  But while 
browsing the sale, I came across the same PHOTO of Vanessa Redgrave (age 30) 
that was used on the "Isadora" one-sheet -- struck from the original 1967 
negative shot by photographer Victor Skrebneski.
 
** Below is the web-hosted image of the poster on Bruce's website.  Below that 
-- is the absolutely stunning (to me) original black-and-white image of Vanessa 
being offered by Sotheby's.  Equally stunning?  Sotheby's has tagged a pre-sale 
estimate on this photo of $8,000-$12,000.
 
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1353787

 

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