Rich, The phrase "Zionist Hoodlums" is very inflamatory to many Jews, even when it is followed by compliments to Jews and their achievements. The mere derogatory conotation of "Zionists" in that phrase, is an affront to millions of people who are proud to be Zionists.
It is akin to to refering to participants in an Easter Parade as Christian zealots. Or worse. I apologize in advance if I'm taking this subject to places way off topic. Sorry. Zeev ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Evans To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Vanessa Redgrave's controversy at the Oscars-- a link to the story As Joe said she was specifically referring to the demonstrators, (who burned her effigy that night), and did speak in praise of the Jews who died in the Holocaust. So based on that speech, "anti-semite" was and is inaccurate. Was going to say more, but I'll leave it with the observation that the majority of celebs publicly support causes that just happen to be far more acceptable. And whether deliberately or not, and however heartfelt, are raising their profiles in a context that could potentially benefit their careers. Rich On 25 Mar 2009, at 18:24, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: she did indeed get blacklisted for a time as an anti semite At 09:58 AM 3/25/2009, Andrea Kanter wrote: Hi Joe, I thought she had been blacklisted, but didn't follow her career. I also thought it was just part of the discussion, and was NOT making a political comment. I was being curious. IMO, my comment had nothing to do with Toochis' remarks, and very rarely do. Andrea On Mar 25, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Joseph Bonelli wrote: Hi, Andrea, et. al., from Joe B in NOLA As you've brought up the most controversial moment from Vanessa Redgrave's career, I think that the story needs to be posted. Here's the story-- albeit in a not-completely-objective article: http://www.super70s.com/super70s/Movies/1977/Redgrave_Zionism_Speech.asp Whether or not one agrees with Redgrave's politics on the matter of a Palestinian homeland, the facts are clear: Vanessa did not make a "nasty comment about Jews." She decried the demonstrations outside. I remember the show vividly and the story, though not objectively, reports what was said accurately. Joe PS-- Once again, I repeat Toochis' admonishment to drop political discussions on MOPO. I agree and only posted this to get the facts down in reference to the Redgrave Oscar speech. Joe --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Andrea Kanter <[email protected]> wrote: From: Andrea Kanter <[email protected]> Subject: [MOPO] Vanessa Redgrave To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:01 AM From: ANDREA KANTER < [email protected]> Date: March 25, 2009 8:17:20 AM EDT To: David Kusumoto < [email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: The Ravishing/Stunning Vanessa Redgrave I worked the Academy Awards 'satellite' at Studio 54 in the late 70's. The awards were simulcast there. One of the Redgrave sisters made a nasty remark about Jews during her camera-time that silenced Studio 54 and, I assume, the room she was in in Hollywood. After that, I rarely saw her. I believe it was Vanessa. Does anyone know? Andrea On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:08 AM, David Kusumoto wrote: ** Every once in awhile, I'll read a news story that sends me off looking in wildly different directions, researching names and back-stories, etc. ** Well, the other day, in the aftermath of the tragic death of Natasha Richardson, I started thinking of her mother, Vanessa Redgrave. The day before Natasha died, we coincidentally sat down to re-watch Vanessa's 2007 performance in "Atonement," the wonderful film adaptation of Ian McEwan's 2001 British novel that covers the impact of a childhood lie on three people from its beginnings in 1935 -- to the present day. She's only in the last 10 minutes, but she steals the picture with her horrifying confession. ** Most Generation X'ers, Y'ers and New Millennials know little to nothing about Vanessa Redgrave -- who since the 1970s, has been relegated to supporting character roles in films -- occasionally broken up by a lead role on stage, e.g., her recent appearance in the short-run Broadway adaptation of Joan Didion's "The Year of Magical Thinking," a memoir which won the National Book Award that covers Didion's clinical observations and detachment -- dealing with the sudden loss of husband John Gregory Dunne and the impending loss of her daughter Quintana -- in a horrific span of about 18 months. ** Paging through Vanessa's life, I was reminded what a ravishing beauty she was, a stunning actress who made a big splash in art films like "Blow-Up," "Morgan!" and "Isadora" -- the latter two for which she received Academy Award nominations for Best Actress. But the image of Vanessa that sticks in my head is NOT the one more commonly seen in Antonioni's "Blow Up." No, it's the image of a naked Vanessa on the very affordable one-sheet from from the lesser-known film directed by Karel Reisz, "Isadora," later edited and re-titled, "The Loves of Isadora," the bio-pic about dancer Isadora Duncan. (Which almost eerily -- and coincidentally -- also offered this week by Bruce Hershenson, closing later tonight on his website.) ** I've always been curious about the origin of the photo used on that poster because it's not in the film (though the free-love sexual behavior of her character is on full display). Well, yesterday, I read an AP story about a photo to be auctioned March 30th by Sotheby's purporting to be the earliest known image of lower Manhattan. The photo is dull and unremarkable. But while browsing the sale, I came across the same PHOTO of Vanessa Redgrave (age 30) that was used on the "Isadora" one-sheet -- struck from the original 1967 negative shot by photographer Victor Skrebneski. ** Below is the web-hosted image of the poster on Bruce's website. Below that -- is the absolutely stunning (to me) original black-and-white image of Vanessa being offered by Sotheby's. Equally stunning? Sotheby's has tagged a pre-sale estimate on this photo of $8,000-$12,000. http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1353787 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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