There are still Tad's Steaks in NYC.  I drive home every day  across 34th 
St. and I pass one of them.  I have not been in one in many  years.  
 
There was a chain of restaurants years ago called Chock Full O'  Nuts and 
there was a very interesting thing about them.  Their stools were  designed 
to make you get leg cramps after sitting 20 minutes on their stools at  their 
counters.  They wanted you out as quickly as possible.  Their  stools and 
counters were at a very low height and specifically to get 3  turnovers for 
lunch every hour.  I have been involved with NYC real estate  all these years 
and I met a designer who was involved in this  planning.
 
 
In a message dated 6/20/2009 5:24:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Believe  it or not, we still have a Tad's Steaks here in San Francisco  
near  Union Square.  It's been updated, no more red flocked wallpaper   
but you can still watch the cooks grill the steaks, and it's  actually  
pretty good (well, okay, passable).  The steaks are  $14.99 and come  
with an iceberg salad with blue cheese dressing and  garbonzo beans,  
and baked potato.  The sign on the place is  incredible -- full of neon  
and flashing lights -- here's a link  showing the sign and front of  
restaurant-- it's very similar to the  one in NY but I think our sign  
is even  nicer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/chuckstert/tadssign.jpg

Cheers,  Channing Thomson


On Jun 20, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Richard Del Belso  wrote:

> You're right, Rich...it was called Horn and Hardart. there  was even  
> one on 57th Street, near 6th Avenue.
> I had  forgotten about Tad's...perhaps that's for the best.
> does anyone  remember the Brass Rail, or Mamma Leone's besides me?
> I used to eat  there a lot ( again...a lot of food, for cheap) even  
> though  there weren't any movie posters there.
>
>
> Richard Del  Belso
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:55:46  -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] NEW YORK  THEATERS
> To: [email protected]
>
> yeah there  were a few of those.
> One used to be right by Grand Central  Station
> Horn & Hardart's I want to say was the  name.....
>
> they were famous in the 1930s as places where out of  work people  
> would go in and at the time you could get a cup of  hot water without  
> having to pay first. Ketchup & crackers  were still available on the  
> condiments counter & they would  put ketchup in the hot water, stir  
> it up and make tomato soup  and then crumble the crackers into it. I  
> think you were able to  do this into the 1960s before they changed it  
> so you had to pay  first so they would give you a cup and the  
> crackers were taken  off the counter
>
> I can't remember what 1930s movie showed this  practice
>
> you know what folks.. reminiscing can be  fun!!!
>
> Rich
>
> At 12:43 PM 6/20/2009, Roland  Lataille wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I remember going to a restaurant  and you put coins in a slot, opened  
> the little glass door and  took out a sandwich or a piece of cake.  
> What were those  called?
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Richard Halegua  Comic Art <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
>  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]>
> Subject:  Re: [MOPO] NEW YORK THEATERS
> To: [email protected]
>  Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 3:18 PM
>
> Times Square was one of  the most interesting places on Earth for  
> many  years.
>
> I always liked it because it was an anachronism of  life..
>
> in the winter a limousine could be dropping off a guy  in $1000  
> tailored suit with a fur-coated babe on each arm and  they might have  
> to step over a homeless guy sleeping on the  subway grating (warm air  
> comes up through the gratings), there  would be a couple society  
> ladies headed up to Broadway to see a  play and then a couple hookers  
> rousting a guy while a couple  dopers would be buying from a pusher.  
> Every kind of person you  could imagine was standing on that street  
> trying to make  plans
>
> One of the most obvious places was  a pinball &  later video game  
> parlor called Fascination and Melody Burlesque  was down the street.
> There were several theatres showing Kung-Fu  flicks and to this day I  
> have never been able to find a copy of  one of my favorites - Mad  
> Monkey Kung-Fu. I remember seeing it  on a double bill with the 12  
> Drunken Masters
>
> In  front of some of the theatres were hawkers trying to get you in  
>  and there was the porno bookstore on ground level that had the  
>  private booths upstairs. All the babes would be advertising to get   
> you to walk into "their booth" for a show. I remember running into  a  
> comic book dealer friend up there once and even though he was  a  
> buddy, he was so embarassed he left almost  immediately
>
> There was a Howard Johnsons and if I remember  correctly Dempsey's  
> too. I think Dempseys had a sign that told  you how great their pie  
> was and there was a Nathan's hot dogs  joint. I was surprised on more  
> than one occasion to see Carol  Channing, Walter Cronkite (Walter is  
> about to take his last  breath folks) or other actors there. Once -  
> and this would be  specifically be 1978 because of the girlfriend I  
> was with - we  were having milkshakes and Will Geer sat down at our  
> table  (Nathan's had those long 16 people tables). I asked him for  
> his  autograph and he said "Sure. Just let me finish my hot dog".
>
> I  know I had seen teh flea circus that Richard Del Belso mentioned,   
> but I was pretty young. Maybe 5-6, so I don't recall any of  it
>
> sadly, all of this is gone now.. Left in our collective  memories  
> which will also be gone to the black hole at some  point and all that  
> will remain will be  pictures.
>
> I lived in Queens and the theatre I most often went  to as a kid &  
> young teen was the Lefferts Theatre on  Lefferts Boulevard and 120th  
> street. I remember seeing a double  bill Hard Day's Night & HELP! in  
> 1965. I was with my 2  brothers (I was 8, my brothers 10 & 11).  
> Before the movie  they had the Dave Clark 5 short, Manfred Mann and  
> some others  and outside they had scads of posters including the  
> billboard  on the side of the building that was 120th st. The Beatles  
>  heads were enormous. They also had freebies like a beatles wig and   
> stuff. It was a big weekend and the theatre was jam packed and if  I  
> remember correctly, it was just 75 cents!! We were there all  day  
> long. Nobody chased us out after the first feature. Not too  long ago  
> I was able to score the Dave Clark 5 1sh that was  displayed. The  
> theatre was great - they had stills and posters  and lobby cards all  
> over the outside and on the inside  too.
>
> the Lefferts was a fun theatre too. Saturdays always had  matinees  
> and they may have been just a quarter. Always a double  bill,  
> cartoons, in the mid-60s they showed the Superman,  Batman, Flash  
> Gordon and Buck Rogers serials - one episode of  Batman and Supe or  
> later Flash & Buck each week and you got  a little wallet card they  
> would punch out. If you saw episodes  1-11, you got to see episode 12  
> for free (I guess that meant we  got in free that week period)
>
> across the street and down a  block or so was Uncle Jack's toy shop.  
> I bought all the Aurora  monster kits there and the old man was as  
> nice as anyone you  could meet. If he didn't have the toy or model  
> you wanted, he  would order it for you for a 10 cent deposit and  
> seeing as he  didn't have the Bride of Frankenstein model kit in  
> stock, I  ordered that one. Sometime in the late 60s I remember the  
> shop  was closed for a few days because a couple junkies had robbed &   
> beaten him
>
> also, Bruce is right.. at 8-9-10-11, we  used to get on the subway by  
> ourselves and go all the way to  Manhattan. When I was 9 I took the  
> trains all the way up to the  Bronx - by myself - with $100 cash that  
> I had made selling  comics - to go to a guy's house who was a friend  
> of Gary  Dolgoff so I could buy early Marvels. I came back - again,  
> all  by myself - with 2 shopping bags full of comics. I don't think  
>  anyone bothered me. I also used to take the trains regularly at that   
> age to go to the Museum of Natural History on 79th street in   
> Manhattan because I was in love with dinosaurs and they had the  best  
> exhibit of fossils and the rooms with live lizards were  totally kick- 
> ass.
>
> NYC was lots of fun back in those  days, but I haven't been back  
> since 1992 or 93, even though  I've been planning on going for a  
> visit for some years. The  first place I'm going to head to os Katz's  
> Delicatessen on  Houston St and have some corn beef, some of their  
> hand made  hotdogs and a potato kanish
>
> Rich
>
>
> At  08:03 AM 6/20/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
> Richard
>
>  One of the great disappointments of my childhood was when my uncle   
> (a weird guy and the highlight of my childhood) promised to take  me  
> to HUBERT'S FLEA CIRCUS. It must have been around 1964 or  1965 when  
> I was around 11 or 12.
>
> I was really  excited, and I met him at Penn Station (my parents used  
> to let  the 11 year old me go by myself to Manhattan, where strikes  
> me  as crazy in retrospect), and we went to Times Square, and if I  
>  remember right it was in the basement of some building, but the flea   
> circus was gone (although the sign was still there).
>
>  So I never did get to see those trained fleas!
>
>  Bruce
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Richard Del Belso  <[email protected]>  
> wrote:Bruce, claude...The "art house"  on 42nd street back in the day  
> was called the Apollo. I used to  go there late at night, after doing  
> my college homework, and  see double bills of old Ingmar Bergman  
> movies, like THE NAKED  NIGHT and MONIKA. It  was a "grind  
> house'..just kept  repeating the shows all day and all night. The  
> Theater is still  there but It has been converted into a legitimate  
> playhouse  now, under a different name, repudiating its somewhat  
> unsavory  past. So has the theater next door, the Victory.Across the  
>  street is the New Amsterdam , which was originally used as a legit   
> theater for the Ziegfeld Follies. When I was in college, it had   
> fallen into disrepair and was just another grind house showing third-  
> run American movies and exploitation films...but signs of its  former  
> glory were still visible. After almost falling apart,  the theater  
> was beautifully restored and the musical version of  THE LION KING  
> was installed there. I think disney put up a lot  of the money for  
> the restoration, as they did in LA for the El  Capitan.Around 1960, i  
> once went down to the penny arcade on  the corner of 42nd St. and  
> Broadway to see the flea circus.  Yes, it was a real flea circus  
> (HUBERT'S FLEA CIRCUS) where the  guy had put thin-stretched strands  
> of gold wire around the  necks of these tiny fleas, which he kept in  
> a box filled with  cotton wadding. he could pick them up by the wire,  
> and then  attach them to toy chariots to stage a chariot race, or  
> turn  them upside down and place balsa wood balls on their legs to  
>  stage a 'who can kick the ball farthest" contest. he also had cut   
> out tiny paper triangular costumes in different colors and  placed  
> one over each flea. the fleas wold then naturally start  to jump, and  
> the costumes would wriggle, which, when set to  music, became 'the  
> dancing fleas". The cost for this  never-to-be-forgotten display of  
> weirdness? One quarter!Ah, New  York, New York. I'm with Claude...a  
> total New York-o-phile. but  I had to move to LA in 1976, and I have  
> to admit it's pretty  nice there, too...Academy screening are one of  
> the nicest  things about life here.ciao for now...  Richard
>
>
>  Richard Del Belso
>
>  Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:32:37  -0400From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] NEW YORK THEATERSTo:  [email protected]
> In the 70's there were a huge amount of  those theaters and peep  
> shows in that area.  This went  from 8th Ave to 6th Ave and from 40th  
> St to 50th St.   There were also a huge amount of street walkers  
> hanging around  all the theaters and they were very dangerous if you  
> were not  polite.  I remember when one man was approached and instead   
> of saying "no thanks" called her a whore.  She stabbed him right  in  
> broad daylight. In my college years I went to a theater on  86th St.  
> where they only showed films in German.  I used  to go on Fridays  
> when classes ended early.  86th St.   was known as Germantown.  We  
> went to a famous German  restaurant there when I graduated from law  
> school.  I  don't recall the name.  The real estate boom also killed  
>  the area and the developers moved in.  Today it hardly exists.   This  
> is a part of town that I really miss. Claude In a message  dated  
> 6/20/2009 9:21:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] 
> :In my youth they would still show  some classic movies in the  
> falling down Times Square theaters.  I think the admission was like  
> $1.75. I remember once I went to  some classic movie, and a scary guy  
> was hanging by the ticket  booth. I gave $2 to the ticket taker, and  
> was handed a quarter  back, and the scary guy said, "Give me the  
> quarter". I just  kept walking and he said, "Give me the quarter or  
> I'll kill  you"! I kept walking, and he said, "I am going to wait  
> right  here, and whenever you come out, I will kill you." I went in  
>  and watched the movie, and the whole time I kept thinking of that   
> guy. When it was over I went out, and he was nowhere to be  seen.  If  
> that was the present day, I would give him the  quarter! BruceOn Sat,  
> Jun 20, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Claude Litton  <[email protected]> wrote:I  
> have seen them all since I was  17 years old.  I went to college and  
> law school in New  York City and have spent my working life there.    
> I have  walked the streets of NYC for over 50 years and have always  
>  been thrilled with everything.  I have been involved with NYC real   
> estate all these years and still love it.   I went to NYU  in  
> Greenwich Village and my friends and I  used to peek in  at the old  
> burlesque theaters  (before we got kicked out)  and got to the movies  
> in virtually every theater already  mentioned in other emails (so I  
> wont repeat them).  I  remember all the old decrepit Times Square  
> theaters before they  cleaned up the area.  The police used to walk 4  
> abreast  because the area was so dangerous and I am speaking about  
>  daylight hours, not just at night. I remember going to the theaters   
> on 57th street when one of them was an art theater and the other  was  
> showing xxx films.   I remember Deep Throat and  the Devil In Miss  
> Jones playing for many years as a double  bill.  The Paris Theater  
> showed art films for many, many  years before the real estate got too  
> valuable and getting old  movies on VHS destroyed the market for  
> these theaters. My  office is at 295 Fifth Avenue across from the  
> Empire State  Building and if anyone is in NYC they are welcome to  
>  visit.  I have over 50 movie posters framed in my office suite   
> including 6 of my Chan 3 sheets.  Joe Bonelli stopped in last  year  
> and we had a great time.  Just email me in advance to  make certain I  
> am in  because I don't work as many hours  as I did when I was  
> younger.  I stopped going to work on  Fridays 9 years ago and leave  
> at 2 pm. Claude Litton   In a message dated 6/20/2009 3:06:34 A.M.  
> Eastern  Daylight Time,[email protected] writes:I was  
> lucky  enough to be in NYC when HORROR OF DRACULA had just opened at  
>  the Marfair Theater so I got to see the hugh Times Square wrap- 
>  around billboard poster above the theater.  I also got to see the   
> display of the fiends (in a hugh fish tank) from FIEND WITHOUT  A  
> FACE located right in front of the theater in Times  Square.  Anybody  
> else in our group see these fantastic  advertising  displays????    
> Larry Springer
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