michael
 
at the risk  of repeating myself......you really need to calm down.
 
and do you  really think that by SHOUTING you get your point across better?
 
to accuse us  of being anything less than honest is just preposterous.
 
the only thing this whole thing has been about is whether or not the poster 
 was possibly not faded. I was open to that possibility. I truly believed  
it was faded and I said so from the very beginning.......but I was told  
that it might not be, so I gave it the benefit of the doubt. This was  all 
stated honestly in the description. Whether you believe it or not,  that is 
your 
problem.
 
from the start......with our huge photo and accurate description.......any  
potential buyer would know exactly what they were getting.
 
as for ryans comments.....he has an axe to grind ever since I picked on his 
 crazy buddy greg egbert. And as for Rich's  "bullshit" comments......well, 
he is a friend and we had a laugh about it  over the phone last night. We 
don't always agree on everything but I'm pretty  sure I can speak for him by 
saying that he does not believe the listing was  intentionally 
deceptive.....although he did think it was  deceptive.
 
and I'm truly sorry about that $9.00 you lost on the gentlemens agreement  
poster from another seller on ebay. what is your paypal address? I'll send 
you  the $9.00 so you can stop having nightmares about it.



David  Lieberman
_CineMasterpieces.com_ (http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/)  | 15721 N. 
Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az  85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309  0500 | Office/Gallery Open By 
Appt.  Only.



In a message dated 9/9/2009 7:30:27 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT....................BUT NOT A SINGLE PERSON  HAS 
AGREED WITH YOU.  IN FACT, NEARLY ALL (MAYBE ALL) THE POSTS ON  MOPO HAVE 
STATED 
YOUR DESCRIPTION WAS DECEPTIVE.  GROSSLY  DECEPTIVE.  AND, THAT YOU SHOULD 
KNOW BETTER.
 
IN FACT, ONE MOPO CONTRIBUTOR HAS CHARACTERIZE ALL YOUR EXCUSES  & 
JUSTIFICATIONS & POSTS AS "BULLSHIT".   DITTO.
 
NONETHELESS......"WE" got you to change your decription.   BUT SOME NEW 
COLLECTOR WILL STILL BE FOOLED.
 
AND TO THINK YOU HAVE WRITTEN ME PRIVATELY IN THE PAST TO  CONSIGN TO YOU.  
i want no part in your screwing  people.
 
last year i purchased from an unknowing seller on ebay a  ROLLED/UNFOLDED 
faded half sheet of GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT.  I am sure he  did know it was 
faded, because of many items, it was his only poster.  I  left him good 
feedback, anyway.  When i compared it to the FOLDED  one i own, i saw the 
discolorization.  SO, when i re-listed it, i  DISCLOSED THE FADING.  i ended up 
with 
a loss of about 9.00 after  ebay/paypal fees.  BUT I WAS HONEST.
 
 
 
michael



-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieberman  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Sep  9, 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Vertigo: Q For Dario!



michael.......it is apparent that you have a reading  comprehension problem 
as we already answered your questions here on  mopo and even once on 
nsfge.....here they are again:

the poster is a uniform color. the lighting we use is  sometimes 
uneven....and in this case it was. It is not darker/lighter in any  
area.......that is 
just our lighting.
 
 
the person who restored it only uses grease pencils when he  restores a 
poster.....he does not airbrush........he used the closest color he  had. If he 
did use an airbrush I'm sure it would look "better".
 
yes....the many creases are still visible..........we  actually say so in 
the description and we included a super large photo so any  potential buyer 
can see what they are actually getting.
 
 
 
David  Lieberman
_CineMasterpieces.com_ (http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/)  | 15721 N.  
Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original  Movie Posters  | 602 309  0500 | Office/Gallery Open By 
Appt.  Only.







In a message dated 9/9/2009 5:17:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

   
I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE FOLLOWINF  POST:
 
In a message dated 9/9/2009 3:36:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

I  asked for a link as soon as I heard a backer/dealer wanted it sold by  
another dealer. I took a close look at the large picture and there is web  
and creases throughout the poster.

This is not easy to asses from a  picture and I could be totally wrong. But 
there is a chance that  this poster went through a bleach bath and things 
did not go to well,  which would explain the wash out of colors and the 
possibility that the  paper got burned in to a pulp stage. That would explain 
why 
there is  creases and criss cross touch up patterns throughout the poster. 
To me it  looks like the poster and paper is in rough shape.
I have been suggesting that there are other  problems with this poster.  
You see this with the enlargement  feature.  While fading is one of the worst 
disasters, the defects of  this poster is not limited to just that.   We can 
guess, like  VintageMovirArt stated, as to the need for crisscross touch up 
 patters.  THOSE ARE DEFECTS!!!!
 
But....i have suggested that those touch-up  patterns reveal something:  
since the touch-ups are a different  color/shade of orange---->>>DONT YOU 
THINK IT FADED AFTER THE  RESTORATION.
 
AND DO YOU AGREE THAT THE SHADING IS DIFFERENT  FROM ONE SIDE AND FROM TOP 
TO BOTTOM AND SIDE TO SIDE OF THE  IMAGE????
 
michael




 
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