Alright, Jimbo, so I misread that Diane was talking about window cards
instead of lobby cards, but the operative word in either case is "card"
and aside from the fact that a window card is a bit longer, structurally
they are the same, so why wouldn't the same restoration techniques be
applied to both? The concerns I raised about this technique of replacing
the old card stock on the back with new card stock would apply to both
window cards and lobby cards.
I think it's more important to think about this question:
How much difference is there... really... between a window card or lobby
card where:
1) the old original image is peeled off its original backing and glued
onto new card stock
and
2)a meticulously re-created exact replica of the orginal image which is
glued onto old card stock?
Neither one qualifies as an "original poster as issued at the time of
the film's theatrical release" in my book.
-- JR
James Ryan wrote:
Jimmy,
Do you know the difference between a WINDOW card and a LOBBY card?
Maybe you've been collecting 40 days and not 40 years?
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:37:57 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Profiles in History...question
To: [email protected]
Diane,
Now see, I never knew that --I always assumed that when lobby cards
were restored they were deacidified the same way a one sheet is --
soaked in a chemical bath to neutralize the acid naturally present in
the original paper. I had no idea y'all were stripping off the back
layer of card stock and replacing it with new card stock.
If that has been the "common and acceptable" practice for a long time,
it's a wonder we haven't had a lot more fake lobby cards -- since the
even authentic original cards which have been restored have had their
original back paper replaced, you've removed the easiest, surest way
of telling if the card is authentic -- i.e., its original card stock
paper.
So, now... well, looking at it honestly and impartially... I have to
wonder how many fake expensive lobby cards have been slipped into
people's collections over the years? I mean, if you can't use the back
of the card check its authenticity, well, heck, the front layer is
easy to reproduce extremely well with modern technology. And given the
relative small size of lobby cards compared to other poster sizes, it
a lot cheaper to do -- so this sort of high-end lobby card fakery
could have been going on for quite some time now.
Seems the more we learn the worse things sound.
Diane Jeffrey wrote:
Sue
When working with window cards, we remove the back layer card
stock, this way the poster can be cleaned, washed and
deacidified, which also results in removing any creasing/folds.
We back it then with a layer of acid free masa paper, same stuff
used in linenbacking. A lot of window cards have been trimmed at
the top, this then allows us to add the missing paper, making it
to size. Card stock is then adhered to the masa, repairs are
made, touched up, etc.
If you look at my first post about the Dracula, I mentioned the
fact that there was a layer of something on the back. To me, it
looked like the poster had been backed to card stock, cardboard or
"something" and when it was pulled off, a layer remained, giving
it a "fuzzy" (term I used on NSGE) feel. So we removed what we
could on that, washed and linenbacked it.
So to answer your question, you are absolutely right, it is
possible, and just might be what happened with the Dracula poster.
Diane
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