Alright, Jimbo, so I misread that Diane was talking about window cards instead of lobby cards, but the operative word in either case is "card" and aside from the fact that a window card is a bit longer, structurally they are the same, so why wouldn't the same restoration techniques be applied to both? The concerns I raised about this technique of replacing the old card stock on the back with new card stock would apply to both window cards and lobby cards.

I think it's more important to think about this question:

How much difference is there... really... between a window card or lobby card where:

1) the old original image is peeled off its original backing and glued onto new card stock

and

2)a meticulously re-created exact replica of the orginal image which is glued onto old card stock?

Neither one qualifies as an "original poster as issued at the time of the film's theatrical release" in my book.

-- JR

James Ryan wrote:
Jimmy,
Do you know the difference between a WINDOW card and a LOBBY card?
Maybe you've been collecting 40 days and not 40 years?

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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:37:57 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Profiles in History...question
To: [email protected]

Diane,

Now see, I never knew that --I always assumed that when lobby cards were restored they were deacidified the same way a one sheet is -- soaked in a chemical bath to neutralize the acid naturally present in the original paper. I had no idea y'all were stripping off the back layer of card stock and replacing it with new card stock.

If that has been the "common and acceptable" practice for a long time, it's a wonder we haven't had a lot more fake lobby cards -- since the even authentic original cards which have been restored have had their original back paper replaced, you've removed the easiest, surest way of telling if the card is authentic -- i.e., its original card stock paper.

So, now... well, looking at it honestly and impartially... I have to wonder how many fake expensive lobby cards have been slipped into people's collections over the years? I mean, if you can't use the back of the card check its authenticity, well, heck, the front layer is easy to reproduce extremely well with modern technology. And given the relative small size of lobby cards compared to other poster sizes, it a lot cheaper to do -- so this sort of high-end lobby card fakery could have been going on for quite some time now.

Seems the more we learn the worse things sound.

Diane Jeffrey wrote:

    Sue
When working with window cards, we remove the back layer card
    stock, this way the poster can be cleaned, washed and
deacidified, which also results in removing any creasing/folds. We back it then with a layer of acid free masa paper, same stuff
    used in linenbacking.  A lot of window cards have been trimmed at
    the top, this then allows us to add the missing paper, making it
    to size.  Card stock is then adhered to the masa, repairs are
    made, touched up, etc.
If you look at my first post about the Dracula, I mentioned the
    fact that there was a layer of something on the back.  To me, it
    looked like the poster had been backed to card stock, cardboard or
    "something" and when it was pulled off, a layer remained, giving
    it a "fuzzy" (term I used on NSGE) feel. So we removed what we
    could on that, washed and linenbacked it.
So to answer your question, you are absolutely right, it is
    possible, and just might be what happened with the Dracula poster.
Diane
    Studio C
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