Re: [MOPO] Bruce and restoration

[Kevin Conway]

No, now just buy Uniersal that has pinholes, aged tape stains, corner tears, age related coloring, well beat up stuff. At least it's real. like this Wolfman.  Then I'll leave it up to the new owner if he/she wants to restore it. http://www.cvtreasures.com/vintage-movie-posters-sci-fi-horror-movie-posters-c-66_76/wolf-man-original-lobby-card-1941-scarce-p-1922   -----Original Message----- From: "Steven F. Poole" Sent: Nov 16, 2009 7:27 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce and restoration This just goes to show how deeply the "virus" of these fakes have permeated the market and the hobby.    When a highly respected operation like Bruce's can be taken in (at least through the duration of the auction) there really does not seem to be any absolute venue for purchasing Universal horror material without some concerns.   I applaud Bruce in making this known in a transparent public way. It certainly does not give eMovieposter a black eye, but it does underscore the necessity for vigilance in this sector of the poster world.   I'm curious if anyone who collected the Universal Horror material has backed off since the problem of the fakes arose.    Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bruce and restoration The card is almost certainly fake. I was waiting to hear back from the consignor before posting publicly about it, because I didn't want him to learn of it in any other way than directly from me. I have not heard back from him, and I have posted the explanation of what occurred in my latest club message. For those here who are not members, here is that section of the club message: I went away for an entire week on family business, and eMoviePoster.com ran just fine without me! Last week I went to New York, because my mother is ailing, and I needed to help her move into an assisted living facility. Needless to say, this was a stressful time for everyone concerned, and my first thought was to have no auctions during the week I was traveling, but I knew that my 23 employees were completely able to run not only the auctions, but every aspect of the business (except for these club messages, which I prepare personally), so we conducted "business as usual", and just about everything ran smoothly in my absence, which is a real tribute to the skills of all the people here!      There was one problem that would NOT have occurred had I not been traveling.  Just as I was leaving, a new consignment arrived that included a lobby card from Son of Frankenstein. Since our next lobby card auction will not be for several months, I told my employees to include that card in the auction of single lobby cards that was just about to start, even though I could not examine the card. I knew that I was returning just as the auction was ending, so if the card proved to be one of the infamous "Universal fakes" I could cancel the auction and return the card to the consignor.      I returned Tuesday night as the auctions were ending, and I looked closely at the card, and it is almost certainly a fake. It has all the tell-tale signs of the fakes (it appears to be restored on the back, but it was NOT paperbacked), and when you look super-closely at the back, you can see defects on the back that do not perfectly match up to defects on the front.      So as soon as the auction ended, I e-mailed the "buyer" to tell him I was canceling the auction (and why), and I also e-mailed the consignor to alert him to what had occurred, so that he could contact the person he bought it from, and get a refund (if possible). The high bidder was understanding, and I have just heard back from the consignor that he purchased it from an English auction house, so one would certainly hope he will get a refund just as soon as he returns the card to them.      This makes me conclude two things: 1) I need to continue to personally inspect and grade ALL restored items eMoviePoster.com offers for auction. I made an exception this one time because of the unusual circumstances (and because I knew I was returning as the card ended), but I won't make any exceptions in the future, and I will continue my policy of not auctioning ANY items where I have ANY doubt as to its authenticity. 2) Given that this item turned up in an English auction, it shows that the fakes are spreading all over the globe, and ALL restored expensive items (especially Universal horror) must now be scrutinized EXTREMELY carefully to be certain of their authenticity. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Sean Linkenback <slinkenb...@comcast.net> wrote: Speaking of restoration and lobby cards. If the winner or consignor of the Son of Frankenstein lobby card that was sold in Bruce's auction this past Thursday is on the list, I would be interested in talking to you. That particular card was sold 3-4 times by Kerry Haggard to individuals and all turned out to be fakes.  The one Bruce had looked exactly like the one that Haggard used to make his fakes, and I would be very interested to learn where it came from.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Conway" <treasur...@earthlink.net> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:16:56 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [MOPO] HERITAGE, linen....... I wanted the Abbott & Costello Meet Frank lobby cards but the restoration on all of them detered me. -----Original Message----- From: Michael B Sent: Nov 14, 2009 1:18 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] HERITAGE, linen....... i am hesitant (meaning that i usualyy don't buy) linen posters because images cannot show the repairs/damage.  heritage's images of linen make it hard to see the repairs, even when you enlarge.  don't think i am anti-heritage:  in the last year, i purchased about 10 good pieces, unrestored.  condition was excellent on each, just as the pics showed.   check out heritage's THE THIRD MAN 3 SHEET on linen:  http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7014&Lot_No=89469   was this a good buy?  the winner appears to have been at the auction live.  this THIRD MAN sold for less than the one sheet.    their NOW, VOYAGER one-sheet on linen didn't get a lot, although this is a highly-sought after title.   are linen pieces decreasing in value?  you all know my anti-restoration thoughts, but nearly all three sheets have been restored.     michael      Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Kevin Conway Conway's Vintage Treasures www.CVTreasures.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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