I was NOT speaking to Jaime's claim of innocence. I was responding to the illogic of Bruce's post. FRANC
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:35 PM To: Franc; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] BIG News in Universal Horror Fraud Case Franc while I applaud Jaime for coming forward with a mea culpa, I would also say that due to the number of copies of certain pieces he produced, that it's hard to accept your points as truly valid as concerns Jaime. Keep in mind that some lobby cards are known to have been produced 10+ times (I think one of them being the Son of Frankenstein scene card that Bruce accidentally auctioned, but discovered before billing). That simple fact makes it hard to believe that Jaime did not - even in the back of his mind - know that there was something nefarious going on. Also, as we know, the items were indeed "made to deceive", otherwise - why did Jaime not put an identifier on the back of each item to prevent such frauds as have been perpetrated on the Universal poster hobby?? THERE WAS NO VALID PURPOSE ANYONE COULD TELL A RESTORER WHY HE SHOULD NEED 3 COPIES OF A BLACK CAT ONE SHEET MADE TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS AN ORIGINAL POSTER and that's why they are called "forgeries" Don't forget that Jaime can be liable financially for his part and that it is in his interest to deflect his liability as well as reduce an criminal liability he has as well. Therefore it is in his own interest to "sugar coat" his participation. Now however, do you have any doubt that in his response to Jaime's sworn affidavit that Kerry Haggard will file one saying that Jaime was a knowing participant?? Did you ever hear the term "they're thick as thieves"?? After an arrest, thieves usually sell each other out to save their own skins. Rich At 08:24 AM 12/3/2009, Franc wrote: Bruce --- I'm not taking sides in this one but your logic is flawed. A forgery is defined as "the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects with the intent to deceive." If Jaime Mendez's claim is actually true in that he didn't know that is was the intent of Kerry Haggard to sell these works as originals, then Jaime had no intent to deceive. Hence Jaime is not guilty of forging movie posters irrespective of the fact that it is his work that was ultimately used in Haggard's forgery. Franc -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] BIG News in Universal Horror Fraud Case I guess those who said that we have to give this restorer the "benefit of the doubt" will now accept that he is GUILTY of forging movie posters (whether or not he was "aware" of what purpose they would be used for), since he admits to it himself. Given this news, are there still people here who think they should send their posters to this person for restoration? How can you know that YOU won't receive a reproduction in return? And what of the many, many posters he restored for many dealers and auction houses over the past three years? Don't they all need to be checked over closely. I applaud this person for "doing the right thing", but I certainly would advise him to find a new line of work. Bruce On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Sean Linkenback <[email protected] > wrote: Sue is probably waiting until their regular newsletter to make an announcement, but there is BIG, HUGE, GIGANTIC news in the ongoing civil lawsuits (which will definitely affect the upcoming criminal suit) in the Haggard fake case. Jaime Mendez has entered a sworn affidavit in the Gresham v. Haggard case for the plaintiff and is testifying that he DID indeed make the fake posters on behalf of Kerry Haggard, but did not realize the true motives behind Haggard's request. There is also a partial list provided by Mendez of the posters he worked on. 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