JR
I just got in a collection to be auctioned next month and as I was
going through it I came to a Balderunner insert
as soon as I picked it up, I said "oh man.. minty white!" because it
was very obvious to me..
I checked Dave L's site and sure enough he had a real one & a fake
comparison.. It was indeed minty white
then as I continued I came across a Return of the Jedi B style insert
and I said "oh man.. minty white!"
checked Dave's site.. he didn't have a fake, but he had a real one..
and I saw the differences that made this copy minty fresh
then I found a Star Wars insert and I said "Jes-us Christ.. minty white!"
Dave had a real one next to a fake and it was a minty fresh repro
Then as I continued I found a Raiders of the Lost Ark 1982R insert
and I said "God ferqin dammit.. another Minty White!"
unfortunately Dave did not have a comparison, and I'm waiting to
receive something in the mail from a friend and some info from Bruce
so I don't know if this one is minty.. it may not be as it looks of a
much better quality.
In other words, they are obvious enough that if you handle enough
paper you can tell that something is amiss as soon as you handle them.
but if you don't handle enough paper, you can probably be fooled
some things are easy to see - if you know what you're looking for
interestingly, the Star Wars 1/2 sheet, Jedi hs, Raiders hs, ESB half
sheet in the collection are all real ones, so the previous owner of
the collection was hit and miss on his buying, but probably bought
all four inserts from the same seller on fleaBay as was common years
ago. Of course I'll be shooting photos for my private comparisons
page so that I won't have to look for Dave's page again and I can say
that even though these are older now, they are still really minty
items and I suspect that unless they were stored in poor conditions,
other copies will retain this to some degree.
One more reason why you should always buy such posters from
knowledgeable auctioneers like Grey, Bruce, Sean, Profiles and Myself
(and yes David too) who stand by the authenticity of items that we
sell and also try to root out these fakes before they get back into
the market preventing more problems for buyers downstream
Rich
At 11:20 AM 12/13/2009, James Richard wrote:
David,
I've never actually owned or seen a minty white myself, so I have no
first hand information to go by.
Am I correct in thinking that most of the minty whites did not have
an actual printing variation that allows them to be identified like
the Godfather does? For those which do not have a printing
variation, it seems that, as you say, they are now aging and no
longer have that new car "minty white" smell, making them virtually
impossible to distinguish from an excellent condition authentic
insert. I've heard they were printed on slightly different paper,
just a tiny bit thinner, but is the paper thickness going to be
enough for most people to be able to continue to identify them as
they continue to age?
-- JR
David Lieberman wrote:
We did a comparison and took photos a few years ago, they are on
our website. You can see that the black ink in the corners where
the lines meet on the original is not perfect, while they fixed it
for the repro.
I've been saying for awhile now, the "minty whites" are aging and
are no longer always "minty white".
They've been around now for over 20 years.
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http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/godinscomp1.jpg
And..... just to confuse things.......Todd Feiertag sent us some
REAL Empire Strikes Back GWTW inserts that were actually newer and
whiter looking than the minty white fake we have.
be careful out there.
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