Yes, you are quite correct that 1963 is when ZIP codes made their first appearance. It came from a Zoning Improvement Plan, which had been in the works for some time.
They were however virtually unseen during Kennedy's time as President or the beginning of Johnson's. In fact it was quite some time before all post offices even could provide stamp cancellation with a ZIP Code. Initial use in 1963 was totally optional and while they were available for use, I don't believe they were in "general use" which is why I choose to use the term "general use" and referenced the 70's. I certainly acknowledge that claim to be my opinion, whereas the actual announcement of ZIP Codes ant their availability for use is an objective fact. ZIP codes only became more prevalent as the Post Office increased requirements of ZIP Code use and broadened ZIP mandates for bulk and commercial mailers in order to avail themselves of certain services or rate classifications. They also starting putting rules in place for home consumers. It was not until after a large body of postal use requirements were in place that their appearance became ubiquitous, which was long after the initial 1963 optional use roll-out. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Rosen To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] more on the King Kong poster Zip codes came into use in 1963. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip W. Ayling To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] more on the King Kong poster Richard, I really hold you in high regard for engaging people about the "Portals". Early on I used to do that and mostly the response was negative, though sometimes people were appreciative. I remember a seller getting really indignant when I told him that I was sure his Frankenstein was a fake. After enduring the "what makes you an expert?" and "how could you know, when I have the poster in my hands and you are just guessing?" I asked the sell if there was a ZIP Code after Sausalito,Ca? The seller confirmed that there was a ZIP code. When I pointed out that ZIP codes went into general use in the early 70"s and the Poster said 1931 on it; the seller said that the ZIP was printed on it later. I am amazed at the range of human behaviour often enough. Phil A ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: Phillip W. Ayling ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] more on the King Kong poster Phillip obviously I am also trolling fleaBay looking for stuff. Yes, Bruce and Heritage and I all do better work - fleabay doesn't know what to do and they keep trying to find "that formula" without realizing they had the formula and abandoned it. But anyway, I usually don't post about the Portals.. I let our resident "echo" member do it.. there might not be much else for him to do.. But this listing was soooo laughable.. I had to post I helped someone else recognize what he had a couple weeks back on a Portal as well. I had bought a couple inserts from him, and he emailed me when he listed a March of the Wooden Soldiers poster, but the size was wrong. I asked if it had Portal productions in the border, he said yes & I educated him over the course of several emails and unlike 98% of the Portal sellers, he listened, changed his listing (it's on right now) and he was very appreciative for the knowledge. sadly, most people selling Portals know exactly what they are and know exactly what they are doing.. I think that goes for the current listing of the Kong Rich At 02:31 PM 2/18/2010, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: Re "King Kong" It also promises on the Feature listing itself "This one will sell" An interesting thing for me is that even though we all recognize that E-bay is increasingly lame and our derision is loud and justified, Richard, I believe, first noticed this listing and posted it on MoPo within 40 minutes. I won't make suppositions about why, I would let him tell that story, but I would presume that many of us might have also have made that post had we been first to notice it. I know for me, I notice those things because I still spend much time trolling E-Bay for the increasingly rare find. I imagine many of us will continue to do so,even if there is only rarely an auction of value. I would hate to know that one great poster was up for sale and I didn't notice it, and someone else did and they got it... even though I know that Richard and Bruce and Grey are all doing a better job than Ebay. I rarely get much on E-Bay and even when I do, I still get taken. Yet, I still look. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed a low value Gene Autry card, and it was in better shape than the one I have. It isn't a card for which there are commercial repros available. It was also being sold by someone who sells mostly other stuff. The story goes that it had been theirs for some time and of course listing says "Original Vintage Gene Autry Lobby Card" I also like to think that even though I am not a dealer and truly just a minor collector in the scheme of things, that I am smarter about posters than the average bear. I get the card; it is a Kinko's Copy. I contact seller and say this is not an "original Lobby card" Seller says; "I was told it was original" I reply; "So was I" End of story; no further contact with seller and I have phony non-commercial repro of a $30 Lobby. Yet I will surf e-bay at some point today, even as I resent virtually everything about their operation. Phil Ayling ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] more on the King Kong poster actually, aside from Faye Ray, the poster really is not a reproduction as that exact image with text blurbs etc, like the Drac & Frankenstein Portal posters, is not on any theatrical poster At 10:32 AM 2/18/2010, walter reuben wrote: hey guys you are missing the boat on that Portal King Kong poster. You have been making snarly comments about the guy who is selling it. You have totally not noticed that this is the ultra rare Portal version with "Fay Ray" or "Faye Ray." The seller has gone to a lot of trouble to point this out. 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