So yourself, holiday, Carson and Jeannie whover she is out of 3000 hate MPF, 
big deal I can actually live with that lol

You say I'm bad for thinking about creating an educational authentication 
website when there is already one. But you recreated the wheel with your forum 
when there are already 3? (which I have ni problem about) That's a bit 2 
hypacritcal don't you think!!

I still don't have a problem with your forum, even now as I'm not vindictive. 
But it's not what you've got, it's the way that you do it. 

Your not welcome back on MPF  and I'm not saying anything more on the matter as 
much as I want to, I think mopo doesn't need this as it's turned malicous. Lie 
as much as you want to try and slander MPF - as far as I'm concerned this 
conversation is over and apologies for mopo for it escallating.

Love and peace
Andy
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On 2010-02-22 07:30:54 +0000 Thierry Brame <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Now that I've had time to cool down, I can reflect better.
> 
> Rich, I've never had a problem with Andy.  In fact, he is still on my  
> Facebook (unless he removed me, but I never go to Facebook, so I  
> wouldn't know).  When he started banning people left and right, I grit  
> my teeth a little, but I let it go.  When he asked for money because  
> he was having trouble running his forum, I gladly sent him some, even  
> more than he was asking for.  But when he had a disagreement with  
> Jeannie (whose only fault was to disagree with him) and then Jon  
> (Joneyy) about banner placement, I realized Enron had taken over and I  
> drew a personal line.  So when Holiday came to me with the idea of a  
> new forum (which we had talked about many times before), I gladly  
> jumped on board.  Everyone is in financial distress these days, and I  
> understand that, but when it all becomes about money, it feels really  
> uncomfortable.  Now if you check MPF, you'll see a "Make a donation to  
> MPF" at the bottom, which again, should not be what a public forum is  
> about.  Andy can steer his ship as he wishes, but this is the  
> reason(s) why I jumped out.
> 
> Now, I don't remember what prompted me to be so abrasive in the  
> original email that Andy so elegantly posted.  It was not always the  
> case.  As you can see below, this is the email that I originally sent  
> to my poster friends:
> 
> 
> (name),
> 
> As you may know, Holiday and I have been utterly disappointed with MPF  
> as of late.  Andy can manage his forum as he pleases, but the recent  
> banning spree has left us questioning his ulterior motives.  Granted,  
> some abused the system, but many didn't, and were only ostracized for  
> disagreeing with the owner, among others Jeannie, and most recently  
> Joneyy.  A lot of good people also left as a result of what we feel is  
> an abuse of power.
> 
> So we dreamt of a better forum, and have decided to unite forces to  
> create something that meets our aspirations.  Now, don't be too  
> critical, this is only the beginning.  Our newborn is only a few days  
> old, and his conception took 5 days.  On top of being a top lawyer,  
> Holiday can now call himself web designer.
> 
> What we're trying to do here is create a forum about posters, but  
> unlike MPF and NS4, about all posters.
> 
> So please check it out, tell us what you think.
> 
> I want to emphasize the fact that we are not trying to "steal" you  
> from one forum to the other.  This is not what this is about.  We just  
> wanted a new playground.  You are free to participate in all forums.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Holiday and Thierry
> 
> http://www.allposterforum.com/
> 
> 
> Some of you received it, so you can attest to its authenticity.
> 
> When I sent the other email to a guy I don't even know, I was only  
> trying to help him sell some LOTR banners he was advertising on MPF.   
> Since he had never posted before, I honestly didn't care whether he  
> would join or not.  We already had more than 100 true members on APF,  
> and the forum was doing great.  My tone, however, was anything but,  
> and again, I feel sorry for that.  I don't know if I got upset because  
> 1) Andy was trying to get yet more money out of a new venture that  
> already existed (Jeannie's MPA - http:// 
> movieposterauthenticating.com), or 2) because he was trying to bring  
> the cover back to him by posting fake membership numbers on MoPo -  
> whatever the reason at the time, I was pissed at him, and it does  
> reflect in my email.  As you can see from above, it was not always the  
> case.  I know I was wrong (really wrong for that matter), but so was  
> that guy for posting a private email on a public forum (a definite no- 
> no in my book), and so was the owner of that forum for posting it on  
> MoPo.  I knew he would, though, because it goes with character.  Like  
> Bruce said, he should have let it die.  But now he started this "war"  
> and made me state in my earlier post why I was so angry at him:  
> Banning and turning a hobby into a personal financial endeavor.
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 
> 
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