** Thanks, Mike.  Yes, but it was all Carol.  If paper-backing was in the 
equation, I would've said NO.  The thing I couldn't get over was Carol Tincup 
was extremely confident about the outcome.  I had to be talked off the cliff 
several times.  It's obvious she had done this many times before and that after 
30 years, you get better at it.  There's knowledge and there's skill.  I like 
to KNOW what's being done -- but I do NOT have the skill.  A restorer has to 
have both, but skill varies from person to person.  Even Carol admitted that 
after many years (she began her career working on restoring old photos), a lot 
of trial-and-error practice is involved in perfecting your craft - so that by 
the present day, you're not only better at studying problems, you excel at 
solving them, always finding better techniques to keep restoration minimally 
invasive.  Carol studied my posters and the potential steps required to rescue 
them, and then turned into a surgeon without cutting open the chest, so to 
speak.  That's amazing.  There are many fine restorers out there.  I appreciate 
what you do.  What was kismet in my case was Carol reached out to me with 
do-it-yourself solutions.  Forget that, I'm not a craftsman.  Had she not 
reached out, I was resigned to accepting things as they were.  I'd never worked 
with her before and her confidence and convictions were contagious.

** Now, do I consider both posters "restored?"  Yes and no.  Working on the 
backs of both posters felt more like a big repair job than a restoration.  The 
irony is while Carol's efforts were labor intensive -- I now own two posters 
that have the "look and feel" of unrestored posters.  If I ever sold them, I 
would disclose that both posters were previously folded but were professionally 
flattened.  I wouldn't have to say they were painted or paper-backed.  Amazing. 

Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:25:30 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "Lawrence," BEFORE & AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to our 
hobby.
To: [email protected]

Very impressive results. The "botox needle" is fascinating. Removing dry mount 
is a most unenviable task and it looks like Carol did a splendid job! I really 
like the choices that were made in bringing these pieces back.

Pov

May the holes in your collection be filled.

--- On Sat, 7/24/10, David Kusumoto <[email protected]> wrote:

From: David Kusumoto <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] "Lawrence," BEFORE & AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to 
our hobby.
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:13 PM




Thanks to everyone for their private and public messages about my early morning 
post re: my two "Lawrence" window card posters.

** About "strengthening the fold lines" on my posters and making them near 
invisible:  The "heavy lifting" was done on the BACKS of both posters, NOT the 
front.  Carol stressed she didn't like to touch the FRONT because that risks 
damaging the color integrity of the displayed image.  The work was truly 
"keyhole surgery" as Phil describes, e.g., not only did she pry off the dry 
mounted form core in pieces, which took forever, she had to clean the back 
carefully and then use what I humorously call an extremely thin "botox" needle 
to inject a fine liquid into the BACK fold.  This could have been a glue or 
starch, I don't know. 
 This part also took a lot of skill and patience.  The main thing is that when 
it dries and is pressed, it strengthens the previously weakened paper fibers on 
the fold lines.  The poster comes out sturdy.  And yet the back fold line is as 
smooth to the touch as the front.  I love the fact that the most critical work 
was done to the back, not the front.  I think the work would've been less labor 
intensive if it had been immersed in liquid and paper-backed, but that's not 
what Carol nor I wanted. 

** And - YES!  Both posters are already framed and hanging side-by-side!  The 
UV plexi frames were built by Sue Heim of course!  (See below.)  You all saw 
the "before" images.  I thought my situation was hopeless.  It's wonderful to 
be proven wrong.  -d.



Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:19:31 +1000
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "Lawrence," BEFORE & AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to our 
hobby.
To: [email protected]










The poster restoration equivalent of keyhole surgery. 
Those posters are going to look great framed side be side!
 
Phil
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  David Kusumoto 
  To: [email protected] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:53 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] "Lawrence," BEFORE & 
  AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to our hobby.
  

  
  

  
  ** Several weeks 
  ago, I posted images on MoPo of a squashed Lawrence of Arabia Oscars 
  window card that a seller sent un-protected in a Priority Mail triangle 
  box.  Shortly after that post, a MoPo member reached out to me, armed 
  with confidence and loads of sage advice... 
  



** The person who "reached 
  out" to me on MoPo was Carol Tincup of Orange, CA 
  (714.289.8630).  Carol has been working with paper 
  for more than 30 years.  I had never used her services 
  before and I only chose to do so because after she saw images of my squashed 
Lawrence Oscars 
  poster, she e-mailed 
  me, offering non-invasive solutions I could try on my own.  As a result 
  of this "outreach," I picked up the phone and said "no way am I going to do 
  this by myself" - and I asked her to work on the poster above -- and then 
  asked her about a second, way more valuable "Lawrence" roadshow camel-style 
WC 
  (below) that I had just received that had been permanently dry mounted 
  onto foam core (NOT spray mounted, which would have been an easier job); 
  Carol was supremely-confident she could pry off the dry mount in pieces 
  without tearing, curling or wrinkling the poster or scorching its colors - 
  strengthening and minimizing the fold line with an extremely thin 
  application of some type of gluey substance on the back - before heat 
pressing 
  the poster flat -- all without airbrushing and without linen- or 
  paper-backing!  Until I spoke to her, I had NO intention of letting 
  anyone TOUCH the poster.  I was intent on leaving the poster "as 
  is."  But her confidence was reassuring.  The "before" picture 
  below has a yellowish cast because it was taken indoors under tungsten 
  light.  The "after" picture was taken outdoors, under natural light on 
  the floor of my covered patio.  Note the visible fold line in the 
  "before" picture.  


** Note that Carol's work 
  was labor intensive but minimally invasive, more like a 
  remove-and-repair-and-clean job than a full restoration.  On the 
  "camel" poster, note the back.  The fold line is still there, nothing is 
  hidden.  But this poster is no longer weak along the fold line; the 
  poster has the weight and feel of sturdy card stock from 1962 - without 
  paper backing of any kind.  The fold line on the front is now 
  FLAT.  It disappears and re-appears amid the colors when you put your 
  eyes within 2-3 inches of the poster, but at a normal viewing distance, it's 
  gone.  Carol achieved the same results with my formerly squashed "Oscars" 
  poster.  I am not kidding, you now have to LOOK HARD for the fold 
  lines on both posters.  I cannot even feel them when I run 
  my fingers over them.

** My point is the craftsmanship of 
  restorers has wonderfully evolved from the "dipped in paint" days of the 
  70s, 80s and 90s.  While unrestored paper is always preferred, so long as 
  the world's best museums continue to preserve paper that might otherwise turn 
  to dust and lost forever -- there will always be a need for restoration / 
  preservation craftsmen.  I used to be flatly told that removing dry mount 
  from a poster was impossible.  (It might still be very risky for 
  something like a one-sheet, I don't know.)  But this was the first 
  time I had ever OK'd the removal of a poster that I believed was 
  "permanently" dry-mounted to foam core.  I was extremely nervous about 
  it.  Now that it's over, I'm obviously happy with the results and 
  with the quality of Carol's work -- and naturally, I wanted to share them 
with 
  the group. -d.


                                          
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