Adams worked with an 8x10 view camera. If the plates aren't that size, I highly doubt they are originals. Adams was known for using long exposure for most of his work as well.
Even if they aren't Adams, I would still love to see those plates. Cheers, Toochis ________________________________ From: Richard Evans <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 1:49:51 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim I was quite keen to collect a few decent prints some years back. I was already collecting posters, but compared to that I found taking the leap into photography too daunting. Not wanting to risk being lumbered with a later print (at best), I've kept giving it a miss. On 28 Jul 2010, at 21:24, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Of course Adams was not the only one taking images at the time. But the negs would have to conform >in general ways to Adams' way of working, the formats he used etc. to even be >plausible. I think Adams worked with large format -- what type particularly? >etc etc. I'm not saying it is legit - I certainly don't know. But I feel >sure >that real, objective scrutiny when applied can get much >closer to the truth. To toss out the claims because the head honcho of an >estate said so may be specious. Who knows why the owner had them 10 years >before addressing this. We'd have to know the facts on that. > > >K. > > >On Jul 28, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: > >But the key issue is that this guy just now got huge publicity that was >presented as if these were just found, and now it is revealed that he has had >them for years and no one believes what he wants to believe. >> >>Obviously Adams was not the only one taking images at that time. Are images >>by >>ANYONE else worth anything remotely like those by Adams. >> >>Of course it could turn out they are really by Adams, but its been years and >>he >>has not yet convinced anyone, except of course the guy who "appraised" them >>for >>$200 million (and who no doubt will profit if he can convince a buyer they >>are >>real). >> >>Bruce >> >> >>On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Exactly, Colin. It cannot be put better. If I were Turnage, and without any >>conclusive evidence, I would cringe to see a statement like that in print. >>It's >>silly. How will he look if the negs turn out to >> >>>be real. Crazier things have happened. >>> >>> >>>Kirby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Colin Hunter wrote: >>> >>>That's a self-defeating analogy to make regarding the negatives being next >>>to >>>worthless because they are like a musical score and all the value is in >>>their >>>interpretation. If that was true then an original score in Mozart's hand >>>would >>>also be worthless. I don't know if Turnage is right or wrong regarding the >>>provenance of the negatives but his logic regarding their potential value is >>>clearly off. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Colin Hunter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On WednesdayJul 28, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >>>> >>>>This is interesting, of course, but inconclusive. One doesn't know the >>>>personalities involved. Sometimes (not saying this is the case here) >>>>estate >>>>owners do not want to admit any other owners, no >>>> >>>>>matter what. The stories about Warhol works are legion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>But Turnage is quite correct about the interpretive nature of Adams' >>>>>printing. >>>>> Much of the value >>>>>is there. But to label the negatives "next to worthless", if they are >>>>>Adams >>>>>negatives, is laughable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I'm sure there are methods for really getting at the truth of this -- but >>>>>that >>>>>may involve cooperation >>>>>between the parties. It doesn't sound like there's been much so far. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Kirby >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claimhttp://tinyurl.com/2b4qmrm >>>>>> >>>>>>I love this part: >>>>>> >>>>>>"It's an unfortunate fraud," said Bill Turnage, managing director of the >>>>>>Ansel >>>>>>Adams Publishing Rights Trust. "It's very distressing." >>>>>>Turnage said he's consulting lawyers about possibly suing Norsigian for >>>>>>using a >>>>>>copyrighted name for commercial purposes. He described Norsigian as on an >>>>>>"obsessive quest." "We've been dealing with him for a decade," he said. >>>>>>"I can't >>>>>>tell you how many times he's called me."AND THIS: >>>>>> >>>>>>Beverly Hills art appraiser David W. Streets said he conservatively >>>>>>estimated >>>>>>the negatives' value at $200 million, based on current sales of Adams' >>>>>>prints >>>>>>and the potential for selling never-seen-before prints. >>>>>> >>>>>>Turnage called that figure ridiculous because the value of Adams' work is >>>>>>in his >>>>>>darkroom handcrafting of the prints, and said the negatives are next to >>>>>>worthless. >>>>>> >>>>>>"Ansel interpreted the negative very heavily. He believed the negative >>>>>>was like >>>>>>a musical score. No two composers will interpret it the same way," he >>>>>>said. >>>>>>"Each print is a work of art." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>SOUNDS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT ANTIQUES ROADSHOW! >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>>___________________________________________________________________ >>>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>>Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>___________________________________________________________________ >>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> >> > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >___________________________________________________________________ >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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