>Hello Kirby - when I shot these I used a smith victor round reflector with a 60 watt household bulb in it.. that would make the articles warn as its more orange itself color temp/ Then i palce a plexiglass sheet over the reglector and shot with a sony mavica from the 90s that has a floppy disc drive. then I loaded on ebay and used thier color correction to try to get the white balance better.
The pictures are tough as for referenceI needed to find colors to look at and the most used color was Redand sand or beige of the rock as its the most prevelant.. the transparencie I would geuess also would be duplicates as they had to make copies to send out.. however I tried to peek in to see if the edges had the name of ektachrome or kodachrome..as does movie film stock.I cannot see any markings.. the transparencies are in plastic sheets which can detract some and with the poor sharpness of my camera.. however the face details are right on as far as flesh tones so thats why I thought perhaps they wrer leaning to a hotter warm red because of all.. I guess someone might have some reference shots??? I dont.. In seberal of the shots I did notice soem Blues so that made me think they wer not faded or pink like movie fim gets..I tried my best to give details in my ad on ebay and also to give disclaimers.... heck I didnt have a clue what these were till Rudy and Phil helped me.. as far as the technical aspect..I can only speculate. I obtained these from a local theatre chain back in 80s.. Ive always thought they were cool but recently with Elizabeths passing I did what useually dont do which is hope that there would be interest in Taylor material. soI have offered them Ill go in and lower the price further so as to not make these to pricy. if anyone has questions ask me.. the light bulb was dead center so there is a hotter area in center.. thats the only way i could see shoting them I guess projection would work or a 4x5 enlarger,,,I did it quick with what I had availible. the large cast shoot epic scene was the one that looked the hottest or overexposed.. however all the films i have had in 60s- 70s had that kinda look s the guys were shooting with fast exposure stock and they lit bvery hot.. loook at any of the films of period.. very few were noir or like the black and whites.. afew were color IB tech or kodachrome but most were eastmen perhaps there is a record at the academy of what stock these were on.. I agree with you though Kirby they lean on the red side.whether intentional or because the film stock is turning...they are still very beautiful ! and I never saw any in all my years in bus iness offered by anyone. maybe Bruce had some? thanks for the Input- Tom > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO f/s on ebay CLEOPATRA 4x5 >Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:05:01 -0500 > >>Perhaps, but as I remember (and as this website purports to confirm) >>Kodachrome was not available as sheet film in 1962-1963 when these >>photos would have been made. >> >>http://www.historicphotoarchive.com/f2/kodachrome.html >> >>I think these were made from Ektachrome transparencies or Ektacolor >negs which were reproduced as >>duplicate transparencies. If this was original film, these would >certainly be more >>valuable. But the probability is that Fox made dozens of these >transparencies >>to send out to the theaters that were going to exhibit the film. >> >>Ektachrome, processed with E-1, E-2, etc through eventually E-6 >color processing >>methodology (Kodak), >>was a color reversal film that could be processed widely. Like >Eastman >>color, which was used for lots of films, it has an unfortunate >tendency to >>turn "pink" over the years. The inorganic dyes in Kodachrome are >much >>more stable and retain their color. >> >>Professional color services moved quickly to Ektachrome (for >positive film) because >>processing could be local and therefore quicker. >> >>If the original film was negative film (Kodacolor, Ektacolor), then >positive transparencies >>could be printed from the color negs. >> >>Kirby >> >> >>On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Phil Edwards wrote: >> >>> I think it's more the method Tom has used to photograph them, >perhaps. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Halegua Comic Art" ><[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO f/s on ebay CLEOPATRA 4x5 >>> >>> >>>> At 08:11 PM 4/18/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >>>>> The picture makes this appear to be overly red. I would imagine >that these are >>>>> Ektachrome duplicate transparencies. Kodachrome, I doubt. I'm >not sure but I >>>>> doubt it. Ektachome will fade over time, just like Eastman >color prints. >>>> >>>> hey Tom, I agree with the other guy (Kirby) >>>> >>>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>> Send a message addressed to: >[email protected] >>>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>> The author of this message is >solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> Send a message addressed >to: [email protected] >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> The author of this message is >solely responsible for its content. >> >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> >___________________________________________________________________ >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content >. >> > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO f/s on ebay CLEOPATRA 4x5 >Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:05:01 -0500 > >>Perhaps, but as I remember (and as this website purports to confirm) >>Kodachrome was not available as sheet film in 1962-1963 when these >>photos would have been made. >> >>http://www.historicphotoarchive.com/f2/kodachrome.html >> >>I think these were made from Ektachrome transparencies or Ektacolor >negs which were reproduced as >>duplicate transparencies. If this was original film, these would >certainly be more >>valuable. But the probability is that Fox made dozens of these >transparencies >>to send out to the theaters that were going to exhibit the film. >> >>Ektachrome, processed with E-1, E-2, etc through eventually E-6 >color processing >>methodology (Kodak), >>was a color reversal film that could be processed widely. Like >Eastman >>color, which was used for lots of films, it has an unfortunate >tendency to >>turn "pink" over the years. The inorganic dyes in Kodachrome are >much >>more stable and retain their color. >> >>Professional color services moved quickly to Ektachrome (for >positive film) because >>processing could be local and therefore quicker. >> >>If the original film was negative film (Kodacolor, Ektacolor), then >positive transparencies >>could be printed from the color negs. >> >>Kirby >> >> >>On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Phil Edwards wrote: >> >>> I think it's more the method Tom has used to photograph them, >perhaps. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Halegua Comic Art" ><[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO f/s on ebay CLEOPATRA 4x5 >>> >>> >>>> At 08:11 PM 4/18/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >>>>> The picture makes this appear to be overly red. I would imagine >that these are >>>>> Ektachrome duplicate transparencies. Kodachrome, I doubt. I'm >not sure but I >>>>> doubt it. Ektachome will fade over time, just like Eastman >color prints. >>>> >>>> hey Tom, I agree with the other guy (Kirby) >>>> >>>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>>> Send a message addressed to: >[email protected] >>>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>>> The author of this message is >solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>> >___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> Send a message addressed >to: [email protected] >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> The author of this message is >solely responsible for its content. >> >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> >___________________________________________________________________ >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content >. >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
