The photo links back to Life.com - with the May 1, 1945 date.
Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 11:24 PM I had to post those 3 links into a diff browser to see them snapfish in particular is one of those cookies laden sites I lock out and once it kept going in circles, I stopped checking the other links so I didn't see those 2 other shots they could very well be from the same shoot and she does have the same hairdoo, however it is obvious that the hairdoo on her is easily replicated as she has the same doo standing next to the drawing. Also, there is no way to attribute the photo of her in the blouse to Life without getting a copy of the magazine and seeing if the striped blouse photos appear. I can say from experience that any photograph I have ever seen attributed to Life magazine has their stamp on back, so the photo would not be from their own archives, though it could be from the studio or from the photographer's files i still recommend any of the sources I cited for research to get closer to any specific answer and that while you can probably say the photo is from that time period, that there isn't anything that gives it specific attribution At 03:15 PM 12/10/2011, Richard Evans wrote: Rich, I have linked to striped top pics. This pic: http://www.venus360.com/gallery/lauren-bacall-1/Lauren-Bacall_14.jpg Surely from the same session as the pic in question: http://www.lewiswaynegallery.com/img/_categories/_images/Entertainment_Items/Celebrity_Photographs/3416.jpg And the sketch in this next pic (dated May 1st 45), is based on the first pic, so must be later: http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372293 So, the shot in question has to be prior to May 1st 45 surely? On 10 Dec 2011, at 22:43, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I can answer some of these questions #1 she did not wear any such blouse in To Have and Have Not (I watched it last week) #2 she did not wear any such blouse in the Big Sleep (I am the Raymond Chandler poster collecting King you know) #3 none of the photos linked by Richard Evans show Bacall in said striped blouse so #4 as a result, any identification of said photo from any specific film or period is purely conjecture Rob, the feeling I get is that you want to attribute this photo to a specific film or period for which you have little or no evidence at all, as such, attempting to make any attribution without certain evidence is a dis-service to any customer and I do not think that your boss Jim Halperin would ask you to claim the photo is anything other than what is certain - that it is a vintage photograph of Lauren Bacall from an unspecified film or unspecified period and that in order for you to attribute it to anything, that you must do considerably more detective work before making any concrete or even general claims that is anything other than a photo of Lauren Bacall I recommend, if you happen to be in the Los Angeles area, to stop by Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee, Roger Sapps Bijou Collectibles or even Larry Edmonds where you can physically cross reference the photo with some of the best archives of Hollywood Photography available. I can also suggest the UCLA archives or the archives of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences which also have huge archives of Hollywood Photography. Until such investigations can prove without any doubt what year or film the photo is from, there is nothing shown here that proves it is anything more than a Hollywood Glamour photo that isn't connected to any film or specific time period speaking as a historian of the medium of course. Rich At 02:21 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote: It appears I've found someone else who loves research - this is good stuff! Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Evans < [email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Evans <[email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 10:12 PM No doubt that sketch is based on the pic from that series, and the photo showing the sketch was according to LIFE taken on May 1 1945 at her suite at the Gotham Hotel NY. http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372293 If it was specifically shot for a particular title, couldn't The Big Sleep come into the mix? Although not released til 46, shot 44-45 I believe. >From the same session at Gotham Hotel in 45 is this one, showing in the >background the Big Sleep photo: http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372291 Though, when they were polishing Betty into Lauren, wouldn't WB have been likely to have taken plenty of shots, not necessarily specific to anything? Another pic from series here, this time with her cocker spaniel: http://dawnschickflicks.blogspot.com/2010/08/lauren-bacall.html Profiles sold these Bert Six prints attributed to To Have And Have Not: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5467397. http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5467398 On 10 Dec 2011, at 21:32, Robert Dennis wrote: Do you think that she would wear the same outfit as the one referenced by the painting for a later publicity shoot? - It seems very unlikely. Respectfully, Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art < [email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 9:28 PM I disagree Robert we don't know anything because it isn't strictly indentified to anything personally I think it looks like her from 1948-1953 it would be a dis-service to any potential buyer to indicate anything without verifiable proof Rich At 01:21 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote: Of course. But at least I now know the time period of the photo (1944-1945) Thanks again. Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art < [email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: "Robert Dennis" < [email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 9:00 PM until the image is properly attributed by proof of other evidence, it can't be particularly attributed to any film At 12:42 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote: That you very much. As Bacall's second movie, Confidential Agent, was released late in 1945, then this photo (by Bert Six) was more than likely used to promote her first movie, To Have and Have Not(?). Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Evans < [email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Evans < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 8:28 PM Shot by Nina Leen for Life 1945, in front of sketch based on one from that series: http://kateordie.tumblr.com/post/358074217/lacontessa-lauren-bacall-by-nina-leen-1945 http://stirredstraightup.blogspot.com/2011/03/prints-ess.html On 10 Dec 2011, at 20:02, Kirby McDaniel wrote: People, this is a HOLLYWOOD 31, don't forget. And with stills particularly. k. On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Richard Evans wrote: Looks young, around time of To Have and Have Not I'd guess. Another one here: http://stirredstraightup.blogspot.com/2011/03/prints-ess.html On 10 Dec 2011, at 17:28, Richard Auras wrote: interesting... same top and background with different skirt in this image. http://www.posters555.com/Lauren-Bacall/Lauren-Bacall-Z1G308113-Poster.htm I also saw another shoulder-up image with that top but was a publicity picture in a celebrity magazine. Might not have a tie to a movie but just a star publicity shoot. From: Robert Dennis < [email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, December 10, 2011 10:58:54 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? She would have been 31 when Blood Alley was released. Don't you think she looks much younger than that? Thanks, Robert --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected] > wrote: From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren Bacall photo is from? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 4:37 PM I say that a good guess is BLOOD ALLEY, one of the worst John Wayne movies. K. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Robert Dennis wrote: It has a Warner Bros. stamp on the back but I'm not sure if it was taken on the set of a particular movie, or was a random publicity shot of Lauren Bacall: http://www.lewiswaynegallery.com/img/_categories/_images/Entertainment_Items/Celebrity_Photographs/3416.jpg Thanks for your help. Robert Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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