* Those of you who disagree - who feel the insertion of Bernard Herrmann's 
5-minute "Love Theme from Vertigo" into 2011's "The Artist" - is a 
mild-to-moderate sacrilege - are NOT wrong.  Many people feel the same way.  I 
did not.  I looked at the film as an homage, akin to many films that have taken 
snippets of melodies or scenes from other films as a nod to their classic 
status and/or to parody them.  When I saw the breakfast table scene from 
"Citizen Kane" and then the Astaire-Rogers style tap-dance sequence - I knew 
"The Artist" was a light-weight mash-up of the most familiar tropes of "old 
Hollywood" movies.  

* I still feel that the insertion of Herrmann's score is controversial ONLY to 
older film buffs like us - because we're so emotionally connected to all things 
Hitchcock and Herrmann.  But I also see everyone's point in this way:  what 
director Hazanavicius did - is akin to putting Max Steiner's opening theme to 
"Gone With The Wind" into "The Artist" with a straight face.  That melody is so 
well known that it would indeed "rip me out of a picture."  But I don't think 
"Vertigo" is as familiar to contemporary audiences as "Gone With The Wind." 

* I remember when "Avatar" came out, I scoffed to a friend who has kids - that 
James Cameron had just ripped off the plot of "Dances With Wolves" and a few 
other films.  She slammed me to the ground, saying the movie's popularity 
underscores the irrelevance of snobby opinions from old fogies like me.  She 
said contemporary audiences who made "Avatar" a hit - did not see nor get the 
reference points to a 20-year-old picture like "Dances With Wolves" - and thus 
should be allowed to enjoy them as being fresh, despite their obvious lineage 
to films that came before.  "The Artist" is not a great film but it's good 
enough that I didn't find Herrmann's score offensive. 

* Finally, three weeks ago, Bernard Herrmann's widow Norma gave a short 
interview to BBC Radio about the controversy surrounding her husband's music in 
"The Artist."  If you go to the link below, do not read the accompanying story, 
just listen to the interview.  Herrmann's window is royally pissed off.  She 
says as rights holder of that five-minute snippet from "Vertigo" - that she was 
never contacted by the 
makers of "The Artist" to get her permission to use it.  She feels 
trampled upon and gives the impression that her late husband's music was
 meant for specific films - and that they should never be used elsewhere.  Then 
a surprise occurs.  The BBC interviewer invites Norma Herrmann to a screening 
of "The Artist."  She reluctantly agrees to go.  Whether or not you agree with 
Norma Herrmann, her post-viewing reaction is revealing, though unlikely to 
change your mind. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16681460

-d.


Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:45:17 -0500

From: [email protected]

Subject: Re: Bernard Herrmann, "Vertigo" and "The Artist"

To: [email protected]










I  finally saw The Artist last week. I knew 
about the Vertigo quote and thought that Herrmann's music suited the scene to 
which it had been applied, but I still find the use questionable. One of my 
friends who saw the film before I did, told me that the Vertigo quote 
pulled him completely out of the film. I can see his point - the score to 
Vertigo is iconic if every a films score can be referred to as 
such.

 

On the film itself, I did thoroughly enjoy it, but 
don't really see it as best of the year. I thought Hugo was a terrific 
film, and of the two "silent era" echoes currently at the multiplexes, much 
more 
worthy of the praise that has been heaped on The Artist, enjoyable as it 
is. 



Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:22:54 +0000
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, "Vertigo" and "The Artist"
To: [email protected]







“But I thought it enhanced the picture “
 

Of course! I think it would enhance any picture it was applied to and 
that’s why I really don’t care for it being inserted in to what amounts as a 
massive gimmick, which “The Artist” is. In many ways it’s like watching a 
vacuum 
cleaner shuttle along the glorious past of Hollywood.
 

I’m not so sure that the majority of people who go to see “The Artist” will 
not be able to reference the music to “Vertigo” even if they have not seen 
Hitchcock’s seminal film there have been enough clips on T.V which 
inadvertently 
lodge in people's memory banks, after all it is a very infectious piece of 
music. The only thing that seems reliable is, do people actually care? I think 
they should when you have such marvellous piece of moving art it should be 
protected: they might as well give Damien Hearst the key to the vault.

Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:25:55 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, "Vertigo" and "The Artist"
To: [email protected]










* From what I've read, director Michel Hazanavicius always intended to use 
Herrmann's score from "Vertigo," presuming he could obtain licensing rights for 
it.  (He did.)  But I don't want to paint a rosy picture about this because 
indeed, there are people steaming mad at the music's appearance in "The 
Artist."  The angriest of them all is none other than actress Kim Novak 
herself, who has spent the last 30 years protecting what she considers her 
greatest legacy on film; e.g., a film and a musical score that's all about her 
character and James Stewart's longing for her.  

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/not-everyone-loves-the-artist-kim-novak-feels-violated-by-use-of-vertigo-score/

* Watching "The Artist" a second time, the whole thing still strikes me as a 
charming black-and-white love letter to American cinema, covering the end of 
the silent era - to the beginning of the Astaire-Rogers' dance pairings during 
the early 1930s.  If you can get past the plotting devices that are 
oh-so-familiar - it's a treat.  It's been a long time since a novelty film with 
a predictable ending that's unashamedly pulled straight out of old Hollywood 
clichés - has become an awards favorite.  The downside is "The Artist" has been 
ignored by most audiences.  The only people I know who've seen it are crazy 
film buffs.  With no big stars or high concept ideas or spectacular action 
sequences, it's been as big a flop in the U.S. as Spielberg's "The Adventures 
of Tintin" (another picture I thought was dynamite).  An Oscar for Best Picture 
in two weeks for "The Artist" will confirm mainstream audiences' worst fears 
about an industry that gets behind films that none of their neighbors have 
heard of or cares about.

-d. 

Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:52:07 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, "Vertigo" and "The Artist"
To: [email protected]

I haven't seen The Artist yet, but will take a bet that it was not the 
director's original intention to use the Herrmann, but that he fell in love 
with his temp track and then wouldn't replace it with scored music.  The most 
famous example of this, of course, is Kubrick scrapping poor Alex North's 
perfectly serviceable score for 2001 in favour of the rather better known tunes 
he already had on LP....

        From: David Kusumoto <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012, 4:09
 Subject: [MOPO] OT: Bernard Herrmann, "Vertigo" and "The Artist"
   






















Note:  The links below have been tested and are safe.

* I went to see "The Artist" a second time to confirm my initial positive 
feelings about it.  If you've seen "Vertigo" (1958) - then you already know its 
score by 
master composer Bernard Herrmann is a classic.  It's so effective at 
bringing out feelings of tragedy - or inexplicable longing for something 
unattainable
 - that the musical passage below was brought back for "The Artist" - and is 
heard in the film in its entirety:

http://bit.ly/waRJoP

* Some film buffs found the Herrmann music inappropriate in "The Artist."  But 
I thought it enhanced the picture despite being applied to a story that has an 
old-fashioned ending.  And I bet most audiences today cannot reference the 
music back to "Vertigo."

* And for those who can't get enough of Herrmann -- here's the chilling theme 
that runs over the opening credits of "Vertigo."  (The theme below is NOT heard 
in "The Artist"). 

http://bit.ly/xovThM
                                          





                                          
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:18:33 -0800

From: [email protected]

Subject: Re: OT:  RECOMMENDED - "THE ARTIST"

To: [email protected]







* You're right, Freeman.  "The 
Artist" has a gimmick - and that gimmick is being the first commercially
 released silent film in the modern era since Mel Brooks' "Silent Movie"
 (1976).  Because of this gimmick, the "story," such as it is, is 
constrained by what silent pictures can bring to an audience without 
intelligent dialogue, voice overs or symbolic imagery.  Conversely, "The
 Tree of Life" is cosmic art - and not surprisingly, very divisive to 
audiences in the same way Kubrick's "2001" is - a film that geeks like 
us love - but feel compelled to constantly defend.  You were there for 
the "2001" premiere and you told us that story of how it was received at
 one VIP preview - vs. at another preview held the next day.  "2001" did
 not win Best Picture, but it is a classic.  

*
 "The Tree of Life" is Terrence Malick's greatest film.  But I get blank
 looks from people when I talk about it.  Quoting another reviewer who 
loved "The Tree of Life" as much as I did (in the context of disparaging
 the "end of the world" theme of Lars Von Trier's "Melancholia") - "The 
Tree of Life says every moment of existence is shot through with glory. 
 
Melancholia says life is miserable, so who cares if the world ends?"  
Malick reaches for the stars and some audiences get it and some don't.  
This doesn't mean (nor am I suggesting), that those who don't are 
mentally challenged fools.  

*
 In the end, "The Artist" is indeed a croissant that makes no pretense 
of trying to be an inward-directed, soul-searching treatise for the 
serious mind, nor could it be capable of such - given the format upon 
which it sits.  I confess that although I loved "The Tree of Life," 
enough to see it twice, (the second time on DVD with subtitles, which 
decoded many mysteries I missed the first time around) - when it comes 
to my time and my dollars, I still lean toward films that don't feel 
like work.  I appreciate pondering the unponderable, but I like being 
surprised and walking out happy much better because I'm a depressive nut
 by nature.  

*
 It's like that scene in Woody Allen's "Hannah and Her Sisters" (1986). 
 Like Terrence Malick, Woody is obsessed with the "what is the point of 
life?" question.  His character tries out a bunch of religions which 
only make him feel worse.  But his revelation that hand-wringing over 
"life's" questions is futile - and that "living isn't all a drag" - 
comes not during a cosmic moment, but when he walks in during a 
screening of "Duck Soup" with the Marx Bros.  He's laughing and enjoying
 himself over a film that's a 1933 light-weight classic.  "The Artist" 
is light-weight in content, and I don't think it will be a classic.  But
 it's an ingenious and clever work for film buffs.  It accomplished for 
me what "Hugo" did not, and in far less time.  I think what I'm saying 
(in too many damned words) - is because "The Artist" is a derivative 
mash-up of silent film clichés, and because "The Tree of Life" is 
derivative of "2001" (with far fewer paying admissions) - we'll probably
 be dead before the term "classic" can be bestowed on the either 
credibly.  I still run into people who go blank when I talk about "The 
Shawshank Redemption."  (BTW, I agree w/you about that horrid film, 
"CRASH."  That was the Academy's cowardly way of "copping-out" for not 
picking the favored "Brokeback Mountain" as the Best Picture of 2005, 
even though the film I liked most that year was "Capote.") -d.



-----Original Message-----

Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: RECOMMENDED - "THE ARTIST"

From: [email protected]

Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:29:36 -0800

CC: [email protected]

To: [email protected]



Freeman's review of THE ARTIST in a couple of sentences.



Remember your first plain 
croissant? Different in shape, color, flakey, delicious while eating. 
But then when it was over it was like, ehhh is that all there is?  No 
meat, no other tastes but just buttered dough, and you couldn't help 
thinking, couldn't the baker have tried a little harder?



THE ARTIST = a croissant



If you want a full banquet, with astonishing sensations, thoughtful preparation 
and a feast for the eyes, ears and head.



THE TREE OF LIFE



And when THE ARTIST does win Best Picture, which is likely, just watch. In five 
years it will be relegated to that "WTF were they thinking?" bone pile. Just 
like THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, ROCKY and worst of all CRASH.



my two cents BUT always great to hear from David Kusomoto on this here board.



(EDIT: The dog was GREAT though, far more appealing than the female lead.)



-----Original Message-----

On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:40 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:



Based on a rave review received privately from a fellow MoPo member, we 
rushed out to see "The Artist." Impressions (rather than an essay):



* Magnificent. A "cute" story told with dazzling flair in around 90 minutes..



* Lives up to and sometimes exceeds all of its critical hype.



* Best directed film of 2011. (Michel Hazanavicius).



* You would NOT know this was a French film unless you were told FIRST.



* The two French leads, Jean Dujardin and Berenice Bejo (the director's true 
life wife), deserve their nominations.



* Other actors are English or American, e.g., James Cromwell, Penelope Ann 
Miller, John Goodman, Malcolm McDowell, Missi Pyle.



* Dazzling 21st century tools replicate old film clichés, e.g., multiple 
exposures, dissolves, twirling newspapers, etc.;



* Aspect ratio is the original square frame used during the silent era.



* Silent film ironically has the best adapted score of the year, heard in 
BOOMING monaural SOUND.



* Deceptively simple story is actually charmingly intricate; a superb 
Oscar-nominated screenplay.



* The Jack Russell Terrier steals every scene.



* The film was shot entirely in Los Angeles.



* Some sequences are NOT ENTIRELY silent.



* "Put me over the top" (1 of 2): Bernard Herrmann's orchestral love theme from 
Hitchcock's "Vertigo" heard in its ENTIRETY.



* "Put me over the top" (2 of 2): An Astaire-Rogers-style tap dance scene with 
full rich sound.



* Superior pacing and emotion over "Hugo."



* Writer-director Hazanavicius is only 44.



* Superb ending.



* If it doesn't win Best Picture, I'll be very disappointed.



* Not sure if people under 30 will like it but I don't care. (They won't get 
the "Vertigo" music either).



-d.




                                          
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