this is very true my wife and I have a house full of stuff including a huge poster collection, 400 celebrity statues and mindless numbers of other items that my wife collects. All we ever get from the kids, is ---When will you sell all of that stuff so we don't have to do it. Just give us the money. Claude In a message dated 2/18/2012 8:49:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Amen to those two points Kirby!!! Dave Smith From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOPO] STUFFING THE CASKET WITH POSTERS Rich makes a very good point, which is not always, diplomatically speaking, easy to bring up with clients. 1. Your kids don't care about this stuff. You do. 2. Your kids care about money. Kirby On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: it's a shame I can't just keep every nice item that comes across my path, but when asked for advice, I tell people they need to sell the vast majority of material they own BEFORE THEY DIE. the reality is that we as collectors or dealers know what something is "worth", so if you have a million dollar collection, you should sell it before you're gone and leave your heirs the money which should be several hundreds of thousands, rather than leave them a collection of stuff they have no interest in nor any knowledge about, and they sell the collection to the first person who offers them $50,000 (if that much) I'm selling certain collections I have right now working toward a financial consolidation, as I am not immune to my own mortality At 02:28 PM 2/17/2012, Wolfgang Jahn wrote: I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much more (1000’s for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., European ‘Arthouse’ cinema – but I have to deal with posters on these- I’d love to keep more, but you have to let go and make a living as a dealer. Wolfgang _Kinoart.net_ (http://kinoart.net/) Von: MoPo List [_ mailto:[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ] Im Auftrag von John Waldman Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46 An: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors? I for one don't see it as being a negative. In fact I think if I'm dealing with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better understanding between us. They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, and have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I like it. I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they consider "wares". I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car from a person that has a real passion for old steel. It's in your blood I guess. But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece. Whether it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells. JW From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS Allen et al, I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise. I know what a collector is, and I am not one. Maybe most dealers are. That wouldn't surprise me. Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes posters and sells to support is habit, is a collector. You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance. I am not personally a collector. I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal collection. It's not for sale." On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection. At one time I wanted to start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name of a place. Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY or FORT WORTH. But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I admire certain types of posters enormously I have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it. Kirby On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote: Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale. To wit: If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing that task from an 'empty wagon'. If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares. Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) of wares. If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes. If the prospective dealer has a poor business model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business exists/thrives. BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including the shirt off my back). ad From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers they stopped collecting. the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business. At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote: Hi Kirby I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most of the other major dealers do. And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into dealing via being collectors themselves. Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and what would you collect if you did? Cheers Neil From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28 Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS Neil, et al I did not collect posters when I was a kid. In fact, the first time I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin, Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972. I thought: what an odd thing to want to own. Many years later I bought my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular. But that did not work out and I started selling posters. The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I am not, truly, a collector today. An odd thing for someone who owns thousands of them. I am a dealer. When I have at times contemplated starting a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea. I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea. Every poster that I have may be purchased. Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from the MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin. Best, Kirby On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote: quid pro quo agent mcdaniel. i tell you things, you tell me things. not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say? what is your worst memory of childhood.....poster collecting. ;-) From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21 Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS Were the teasers for this film 27x40? Any help appreciated. 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