In 1983 or so, I was running a movie poster show here in Los Angeles. It was there that I met many of the longtime collectors of early paper, such as Crowell Beech, I already knew Ron and others. I had a young guy come up to my table and offer me the original Dracula, the one that was Nick Cages' that Heritage sold recently. He wanted $3500 for it. I couldn't believe my ears. My rent in those days was about $125 a month. He said he was sure that the poster would be worth a lot of money someday. I agreed but told him I couldn't afford that. He said he could go down to $3000 and I told him he could go down to $300 and it would still be tough for me. I have thought of that young man through the years and hoped he never found anyone to buy that poster untill more recently when it was now worth "alot" of money. If I knew then what I know now, I would have gotten that money somehow and, while I couldn't retire now, I could have a nice little cushion!! Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:15:45 +0000 > Subject: Re: [MOPO] An auction house to avoid > > Of course Sue, if you had been collecting Universal horror back then you > would have found that all of the titles were much rarer than they are today. > > Heritage just sold that style F Dracula, the 4th "known", but the other 3 > were found in the late 90s, the sole copy of style A was also found in the > 90s. > > All three different style Bride of Frankenstein one-sheets that are now > "known" were not "known" in the early 70s. > > When Ron Borst bought his Frankenstein one-sheet in the early 70s and it was > the first poster to crack the magic $1,000 barrier, it was one of two copies > known at that time. etc., etc. > > People complain about high prices all the time, but one positive affect of > the higher prices is that people pay more attention and are more likely to > hunt for, find, save, and sell those items when they realize that there is > value to them. If Dracula one-sheets only sold for $10 not only would it have > not been worth saving the Berwick copy, but the other copies might never have > come to collector's attention. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Heim [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 03:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOPO] An auction house to avoid > > I think Kirby has a very valid point. I have collected for over 38 years and > I met collectors back in the day that started collecting in the late 50's and > early 60's and their main focus was early Horror material or Westerns. Many > of the collectors that started looking for "finds" in the later part of the > 60's that I know shifted to the classic titles. Perhaps it was that more and > more people were getting into the hobby at that point and trying to find > items they thought would be more scarce first off. I began collecting in 1973 > and I collected posters from my favorite movies, which happened to be > Hitchcock and MGM Musicals. Of course, I now wish my favorites had been early > Universal Horror!! Even the realart rereleases were dirt cheap then.... > > Sue > www.hollywoodposterframes.com > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:59:44 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] An auction house to avoid > > To: [email protected] > > > > Grey et al, > > > > What I was intending to communicate is that I think with HORROR posters, > > there was an early-on cult of collectors for this stuff in a way > > that there wasn't for standard Hollywood fare, even A-picture Hollywood > > Fare like comedies, drama, biopics etc. Westerns have some of this > > same genre-based history, I think, too. So people from a much earlier > > period had an interest in aggregating posters. > > > > > > > > K. > > > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: > > > > > I disagree. > > > The only reason we are aware, more or less, of exact counts on the horror > > > posters for these classics is that they are so actively desired and > > > collected and that counts have been made of what exists. They are very > > > collectible. > > > If a group of collectors is buying Bankhead I can almost assure you that > > > they know how many known copies of Devil and the Deep and Faithless are > > > out there. They are keeping track of it and there are no doubt as many > > > copies of some of those titles as the horror classics. > > > Just as those in the collecting circles for Bogart know how many for > > > Petrified Forest are known or for Cagney, Footlight Parade or Hard to > > > Hold. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kirby > > > McDaniel > > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:34 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] An auction house to avoid > > > > > > Bruce is correct here. If as many folks had been as enamored of Tallulah > > > Bankhead as were of Bela Lugosi, you might be able to find the occasional > > > one sheet of THE CHEAT. > > > > > > K. > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: > > > > > >> Good poit Jay. I contend that the Universal horror titles of the 1930s > > >> are often among the most COMMON posters for those years! Can you find > > >> many 1931 titles where there are more one-sheets known than > > >> Frankenstein? Or 1933 titles where there are more one-sheets known > > >> than King Kong? > > >> > > >> Bruce > > >> > > >> On 4/13/12, Jay Nemeth-Johannes <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >>> Well, I have items that I believe are one of a kind. For example a 1 > > >>> sheet for a Richard Dix silent "The Glorious Fool", but I have no way > > >>> to prove it is unique. I expect that much of the paper for early > > >>> silents is rare to nonexistant, especially for lost films. > > >>> > > >>> It is easier when the film is iconic and everyone is trying to find > > >>> an example. Any Dracula find is going to get widespread press. > > >>> > > >>> My guess on why some stuff is more available is pure chance that it > > >>> was initially printed in too large a quantity and somebody warehoused > > >>> it for decades. Laziness rules where a more efficient person throws > > >>> away the "useless" trash. > > >>> > > >>> Jay > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 04/13/12 11:16 AM, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: > > >>>> It would be great if these same all-knowing censustakers could also > > >>>> tell us "three known fakes currently being offered". While it makes > > >>>> big news whenever a Dracula one-sheet or a Chaplain 6sheet is found > > >>>> in a barn, I wouldn't be surprised if amongst MoPo members there are > > >>>> some items that are extremely rare or have never been inventoried by > > >>>> an auction house, so "they don't exist". > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks for any insight anyone might have. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > >>> ___________________________________________________________________ > > >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > >>> > > >>> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > >>> > > >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team > > >> P.O. 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