Hi Neil,

Zeev and Kirby aren't too fond of me, so I always just let their comments roll off my back. They were as I expected. Bullies are cowards: Psych 101.

Andrea

P.S.  I wish that were true, Kirby.  Great visual.



On May 9, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Neil Jaworski wrote:

er, I'm sorry but the first person to flame anyone was Greg when he stated:

"Gee, Andrea, if I were you, I wouldn't be talking about reputations on MoPo. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes MoPo (sometimes) seem like a sort of exclusive club of insiders who use it as an instrument to pursue personal vendettas. Very sad."

Andrea's crime was to dare to express an opinion about a restorer which she had a bad experience with. I'm sorry, Kirby, but it's bullying attempts like this to stifle people's opinions that are "inappropriate and ignorant".

Neil





From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 14:24
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Linen backing: large posters

I agree with Filip and Zeev here. Flaming Greg is apparently both inappropriate and ignorant.

Kirby

PS. I am not really Kirby McDaniel but rather a stocking stuffer for Bruce Hershenson.


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On May 8, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Greg Pflugfelder <[email protected]> wrote:

> Since I've been asked, it's only polite to answer: My experiences with Chris Cloutier (literally hundreds of posters, at ridiculously good rates) have been uniformly positive. No Ruffles here--although I do concede that Chris has rather a talent for ruffling people's feathers. I promised only to "lurk" on this unfriendly forum, so I'll leave it at that.
>
> Thanks all,
> Greg Pflugfelder (the fictitious sock-puppet)
>
> Quoting "[email protected]" <[email protected]>:
>
>> LOL What is even a bigger mystery is how on a well established 'club of >> insiders' this clown still comes up as legit when there are so many great >> choices out there. However, he should be applauded for his marketing >> abilities. It's like a right of passage - if you haven't been through the
>> Chris Cloutier experience...
>>
>> Maybe Greg can tell us of his Chris Clo-uhoh experience... Mine involved a >> How to Marry a Millionaire that came back wavier than a Ruffle Potato
>> Chip...
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 02:09:26 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Linen backing: large posters
>>
>> the concept that anyone could be happy with the results of Chris Cloutier >> poster backing or restoration is a greater mystery than the Big Bang
>>
>>
>>
>> At 06:26 PM 5/8/2013, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>>> Hi Richard
>>> I don't doubt that Greg Pflugfelder exists, but a search of his >posts >> demonstrates that he exclusively posts on behalf of or in >favour of Chris >> Cloutier. And I think that I'm perfectly within my >rights to point this
>> fact out to anyone who calls MOPO "an exclusive >club of insiders".
>>> I hope the irony wasn't lost on him.
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Richard Evans <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 2:17
>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Linen backing: large posters
>>>
>>> Hmm, not quite sure it's safe to assume that.
>>> There is a Greg Pflugfelder at Columbia University.
>>> Clearly Chris Cloutier is, to say the least, an acquired taste but >it's
>> quite possible that there is someone that rates him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 9 May 2013, at 02:04, Andrea Kanter
>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank-you, Neil. I am vindicated.... but ... you think it's >>Chris?????? >> WOW! What a hoot! It's so cool you looked him >>up. Greg, I mean.
>> LOL!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you Greg/Chris for lurking instead. It's the right thing to do.
>>>>
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Greg Pflugfelder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will not stoop to comment further, except to say that you guys >>>are >> proving my point. I am a simple professor at a respectable >>>school, with >> no particular axe to grind, and yet it took less than >>>30 minutes for me >> to be called a "sock-puppet" on MoPo. I will >>>remain a "lurker" in the
>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Pflugfelder
>>>>> Columbia University
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Neil Jaworski
>>>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi "Greg"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's perfectly legitimate for Andrea to have detailed her Black >>>>Cat >> experience with Chris Cloutier on MOPO and to have referred >>>>to it when >> this question of linen-backers came up. I'm sure >>>>Chris can defend >> himself, should he feel he needs defending (and >>>>should he feel he CAN
>> defend himself).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a big difference between "pursuing personal vendettas" >>>>and >> calling people on their appalling non-professional behaviour >>>>and taking >> the time to warn others. Andrea should be applauded, >>>>not vilified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As "Greg Pflugfelder" so rarely posts on MOPO, I did a little >>>>search >> and it seems that he only posts in order to defend or >>>>promote Chris >> Cloutier, which he has done on 24th Jan 2008, 27th >>>>Oct 2008, 29th Oct
>> 2008 which were his only postings until today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cynics might suggest that Greg Pflugfelder is a sad sock- puppet >>>>for
>> Chris Cloutier, although i couldn't possibly comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Greg Pflugfelder <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >
>>>>>> To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 1:13
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Linen backing: large posters
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee, Andrea, if I were you, I wouldn't be talking about reputations on >>>>>> MoPo. This is exactly the sort of thing that makes MoPo (sometimes)
>>>>>> seem like a sort of exclusive club of insiders who use it as an
>>>>>> instrument to pursue personal vendettas. Very sad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Pflugfelder
>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>> Columbia University
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Andrea Kanter
>>>>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO!  He already has a 'reputation' on MoPo.  From me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrea Kanter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Greg Pflugfelder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Posterfix (Chris Cloutier) in NY also does six-sheets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg Pflugfelder
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoting Posteritati
>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would heartily recommend Studio C: Diane Jeffrey
>>>>>>>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>> sam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Posteritati
>>>>>>>>> 239 Centre Street
>>>>>>>>> New York, NY  10013
>>>>>>>>> 212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.posteritati.com/>http://www.posteritati.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Info Movie Poster Art Gallery
>>>>>>>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a US linen backer who can undertake large
>>>>>>>>>> size posters, specifically 6-sheets and above?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Very out of the loop on current US restoration studios, so any
>>>>>>>>>> suggestions gratefully received.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Maddison
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