>
>sounds plausible...didnt know Gore did them// I receiced many
posters from Gore when I did poster striping for the studios and a
company in La called national promotions that was said to be part
owned by Bob Dylan// I would get master triangle boxes that had 300
poster in them and square tubes that held 50 and flats that held
like 100-200.. heavy... I hung the posters In DETROIT.. we had
several printers in 80s and the process was the pantone system and
the cmyk as a screen printer, we used the same color match system I
remember doing a coca cola job and pantone has a swatch for coca cola
RED.. so the metal plates and the inks where adjusted when they ran
the press... and colors would vary and so it would get tweaked
inline.. so this was the same argument ive said for years as they
would send the poster jobs to various printers to do similar posters
and so hence they could get variations in color and paper and many
things....heck what surprised me was some of the bootlegs looked
better then originals.. and when the video came out they used some
theatrical one sheets in the same distribution... esp warner
brothers.... so It became very hard for me after awile to know what
was what.. some that standout was saveing private ryan... a bootleg
DS came out after the original was 1 sided.... the Scarface side by
side was perfect match.. then many where just better paper and when
digital came in they all looked good. continental litho was in
cleveland and did many Gotham on east coast , Gore and many
more...ohio had many printers even going way back to Tooker listh nd
others... when it was stone litho... that was some good research on
the materials David.. and interesting..But I can see people arguing
like the minty white debate for years but its at least better then
the hairline in the crotch style a stuff and revenge rolled debates.
heck old school printing will soon be a collectable in itself//
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [MOPO] STAR WARS STYLE A 1SH "FIRST OF THE FIRST" FIRST
>PRINTING 77/21-0 PMS COLOR VARIANT PRINTER'S PROOF
>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 18:04:48 -0700
>
>>Some new interesting information we have learned about the Star Wars
>Style
>>A 77/21-0 Printer's Proofs.
>>
>>And for those of you who don't like the term "Printer's Proof", save
>your
>>complaining for another thread please. Our client who was there when
>they
>>were actually printed refers to them as printer's proofs.
>>
>>
>>STAR WARS STYLE A 1SH "FIRST OF THE FIRST" FIRST PRINTING 77/21-0
>PMS COLOR
>>VARIANT PRINTER'S PROOF
>>
>>
>>First, a little background information:
>>
>>Gore Graphics was a printing company used by the movie studios and
>the
>>National Screen Service (NSS) from the 1970's to the early 1990's.
>They
>>printed original movie posters, press books, etc. Gore was acquired
>by
>>another company in the 1990's.
>>
>>The Star Wars style A one sheet was officially printed at least 5
>separate
>>times at a few different authorized print shops during the first
>theatrical
>>run of Star Wars in 1977. This is evidenced by the differences that
>can be
>>seen on the bottom borders of the one sheets. It has been well
>established
>>by other experts, dealers and collectors over the years that the one
>sheets
>>with NSS number 77/21-0 were printed first before all others.
>>
>>In July 2013 we had an extensive conversation with Mark, a former
>employee
>>of Gore Graphics in the 1970's and 80's. Like other former employees
>at
>>Gore we have worked with over the years, Mark was allowed to take
>home
>>posters from time to time. He has placed on consignment with us
>several
>>Star Wars printer's proof one sheets. While meeting with Mark we
>became
>>aware of a rare PMS color variant printer's proof for the Star Wars
>Style A
>>one sheet first printing 77/21-0. Mark carefully explained about
>these PMS
>>proofs being the "first of the first" Star Wars style A one sheets.
>>
>>CMYK stands for Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black. These are the
>primary
>>colors used in printing. Varying the quantities of these colors
>creates an
>>endless array of colors to print.
>>
>>PMS stands for Pantone Matching System (PMS). PMS is a simpler
>system for
>>printers to use. PMS colors can streamline the process of printing
>and cut
>>down on cost. There can be so much variation in color using CMYK
>that
>>Pantone is sometimes used to help create consistent color. This way
>a
>>printer can consistently print from job to job.
>>
>>These "first of the first" PMS proofs were printed before the CMYK
>proofs.
>>Four colors (plates) were used for both the PMS and CMYK proofs. The
>PMS
>>process produced a result that was unacceptable to those in charge
>>(probably George Lucas) so Gore changed to a standard CMYK process
>for the
>>subsequent print run which was finally deemed acceptable. All other
>print
>>runs used this CMYK process (as far as we know) making the PMS color
>proofs
>>much rarer than any CMYK proofs.
>>
>>The PMS proofs are significantly different. When comparing the CMYK
>and PMS
>>proofs side by side, the easiest way to tell the difference is by
>looking
>>at the color bars. The PMS proofs have orange included in the color
>bar,
>>CMYK has yellow.
>>
>>
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