yeah that's just complete idiocy.
folks, running these auctions is very much of a salaried job.
You work many hours
many
then you get idiots like this guy Santos.
someone asked me if he was connected to Sandy Oliveri, who was
involved with Kerry Haggard
It wouldn't surprise me if that was another one of his aliases
just avoid the jackass we're talking about folks, and you will be a
happier person for it.
Rich
At 07:53 AM 8/20/2014, peter contarino wrote:
Yes, Rich. This guy has screwed up several of our auctions. He currently has
outstanding invoices in excess of 1K. He is some kind of "antiques" dealer.
After having other difficulties with him last year, he accumulated a box
worth of material towards the end of the year, and at the start of this
year worked out a payment plan which he did not honor. He did make a partial
payment and i sent him a partial order. He writes me and says "these aren't
the(specific) posters I paid you for"! I told him: well pay the whole amount
and I'll send you the whole order. I don't have time for this nonsense.
I didn't ban him at the time because he would not have access to paying his
invoices. So who wins some recent material? Phil "Pat Wainer" Santos.
Needless to say he is finally banned.
Also Jason Alexander (no Seinfeld jokes) who won a nice lot of better Lobby
cards, Notorious TC, Curse of the Demon PC, Bride of Frankenstein best
Realart card, etc. Most of these are back in this week's auction.
Thankfully he is in the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of my
customers are great to deal with.
Back to the grind!
-Peter
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:35 PM
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Subject: [MOPO] DEADBEAT BIDDERS - Who to avoid - Pat Wainer (Frank Santos)
Deadbeat Bidders.
yeah those morons.
all of us who do online auctions get them and mostly they are just a small
inconvenience, but sometimes they are a real pain in the ass
one such bidder has been Frank Santos who for years has been a real pain. He
was once a dealer who I allowed on MPB, though he was later banned for
non-shipment.
He eventually cleared that crap up & I allowed him back on.. as a buyer only
and I had to ban him back in 2008. He came back, crying about some hospital
stay and talked me into allowing him back on and I relented, again.
from that point he never bid anyway, so he was forgotten
then one day last year a bidder named Pat Wainer signed up and proceeded to
buy a big load of stuff.. almost a thousand bucks.. and no payment.
I would email and email and finally after way way too long, I was talking to
Peter Contarino & he had the same buyer and he mentioned that he thought it
was "Phil" Santos.
well naturally that sparked a little research as I already knew that name
somehow so I started scanned my database and Frank Santos popped up.
"OH.. that moron!"
So as I continued to check I found the key - the addresses were the same!
Okay.. now I'm kind of angry. I had given this schmuck way too much leeway
and he abused it at every turn, but one good thing about the sign-ups at
MPB.. Phone number!
Oh boy did I call. Oh boy did I leave a stern message and mentioned all
three names "This call is for Pat Wainer.. I mean Phil Santos.. I mean
Frank...... get your money in. Who do you think you're fooling?"
well I did indeed get paid pretty quick with the usual garbage excuses, but
that order came with a warning "pay your bill on time, or pay the
consequences"
Clearly, the warning did not work as I currently have several hundreds more
dollars worth of stuff that he never paid for, no responses to emails, no
response to phone calls.
Clearly he is the definition of a deadbeat bidder (along with others)
I know that all of us online seller regularly ban non-paying bidders, most
of whom win some small $1 to $5 item and never pay because for some reason
after they have won, shipping becomes onerous to them.
We ban these people just to make sure we don't have to deal with it.
But this guy is a supposed dealer and longtime presence in the hobby.
He has no excuse. So to the rest of you I say "watch out"
maybe Peter will post his story later..
Rich
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