just wondering , with all those spelling mistakes , are you typing really fast
and don't bother to re-read what you wrote as it's just too much of an epistle
every time ? filip
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:03:09 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] what are movei posters worth and how to get info..some
> considerations
> To: [email protected]
>
> many people are asking teh Mopo group what thier items are worth, who
> is interested in them and where can they sell them,,,, many dealers will
> say they Bu things or will sell on consignment or want to trade,,, so a
> primer I would suggest is to look at some history...
> when I started we had very little No price guides, no real numbers just
> a few catalogs from auction results and a few collector newspapers and a
> few collector books.. My oldeest reference would be LarrY edmunds
> bookcatalog from the 60s...the MGM auction was in 1970 and the Weiss
> catalog had a entie movie studio,,, stuff was cheap and Debbie Reynolds
> Bought much,, there was also a 20th centry fox autionm, paramout, many
> studios... then peopel started to track sales,,,John Kischs poster price
> almanac andthe other in Tenn his name slips my mind started to watch
> auctions,,, and chart results much lke Jerry Overstreets guide.. well
> then ebay happed and it changed everything because Now anyone could be a
> poster.comic.baseball card dealer so many prices softened due to
> abundance of titles... many of the old school poster servive exchanges
> like theater poster exchange shut down or moved , poster dealers died
> and specculators bought up huge amouns of Posters as commodditys not
> because they gave a damn about movies or preservation.. they where like
> Factory frams of postres...My personal outlook was that everything was
> mportant from a history perspective,, so I bought everything and stored
> it IN warehouse, rented semi trailers, my building under tarps inhe back
> of building..(I once bought 15,000 35mm movie reels How big is that?? i
> was a 40 ft trailer and wasgaylord boxes of 300 each and we stacked then
> in my back of building under tarps..) my idea was to make coffe table
> out of them.. I sold them to dealers and you name it...then peopel
> discovered tehy where cool.. Kodak sold them to me cheap...
> anyways back to posters if you read on Bottom these where never meant to
> be sold as the rights would have to be split with artists and studios
> etc... so they where to be advertising only.... as we know peopel used
> them as insulatin in homes and more,,,I once found a attic completely
> covered in sat evening Post magazines and tehy wheer all like new.... so
> many posters where saved by theater owners and fans and many sources...
> BUT what are they worth?? it boils down to who cares... many of the
> prices become inflaed artificially by false rumors of rarenesss...many
> because peopel create scaricity or try to corner the market,,, while we
> have seen outright forgey on recent titles o reproductions.. many peopel
> want originals but then have then linen backed or restored for
> concervation as new condition,,, as many feel like archivist.... Fory
> ackerman and the colector I recently bough a collection from had their
> lobbie cards laminated in rigid plastic so that they would not loose
> color or decay.. It worked howevere many collectors and archivists feel
> it detracts as its nonreverse able...
> so lets TALK ROOF shingles....:) I just am haveing a Roof redone... the
> shigles can be warranteed 25, -50 years on material wear,, its kinda
> funny as I thought how do I know Ill even be here in 10 years :) im 68
> so add 25 -50 years its kind funny,, thats why the collectors crak me up
> as I think exactly hows this tiem frame work in your life??? as Ive
> learned TIME is very short, LIfe is short... so saving much is a
> complete crazy plan.... unless its for a cause or to share with others..
> thats why I advocate donation to museums if you can afford to give
> away... oterwize whats IT WORTH..... that changes everyday due to the
> interests of peopel... just look at Movies period... what does anyone
> like??really serious Film students may like eclectic titles or foriegn
> films that only played a hand full of theaters ..but may not even wwant
> a copy as the art was orrible or lack of popularity... commercial sucess
> with titles Lke Jaws and str wars anad Gone with the wind prevail as may
> peopelhave memories of those films in thie lives... the horror posters
> and sci fi appealed to a group of cult movie fans that also had verey
> eclectic interest..soit became its own catagory as did sports movie,
> musicals , etc.. whats is shocking and a equalizer is that many peopel
> have lost interest in certain Genres... so you could have a 1920s poster
> only sell for 10.00 today because NO ONE Cares....the actors, the film,
> te art ...so its really a good time to buy if you just love the art and
> to obtain a vintage poster...so I enjoy the period for peopel that like
> movies.. as far as hording... thats a bad idea i hink... but storing
> them for future generations is OK and the best part to me is sharing
> them as a communal experience... selling them is really all concept....
> as many peopel want ORIGinal release as some kind of status when Good
> news is you can get reproducions that are the same art and will last
> your lifetime and not starve you....as investment... who knows?? it
> would seem te hirtoric benchmark titles keep growing as investment
> comodditys buy there are only so many liek metroplis far out of the
> reach of most peopel or collectors... so that leave what there is...lots
> of posters of all kinds... what ive told my customers is this in last 40
> years " BUY not for investment as they can lse value. BUy a film because
> you like the art, enjoyed he film and if your stuck with ityou enjoy it
> anyway, if it rises in value be happy if it falls be thankful anyways"
> otherwise we can be disapponted and have a ton of items we dont even
> want...it can be fun as a hobby,,, and also you can make a nice amount
> of money as a business...and share the interest of film with many
> peopel..recently after ive been out of he current loop Ive found that
> amany peopel try to keep values and the posters history as a secret as a
> sort of competive way to not share because many peopel want to find
> deals... I understand we all would like deals but whe I stared asking
> values.. I found that Bruce and learn about posters and a few dealers
> would be up front with me and give guestimates... many willask prics
> then sayd " its too HIGH"" ILL pass or other games.. when I think what
> reference are the usng??? too high comapared to what?? what are they
> siting as a sales point a recorded sale on Heritage, emovei pste, ebay
> or what? as what I dod is give a overview of all... just becaus a poster
> brings say 400 at one sale does not mak it the benchmark,,, its a
> cumulative reference of many comps that give a truer picture just like
> Homes or cars... because in the end its what someone is willing to Pay
> that sets the record... thats why almost all major dealers are now
> offering at auction because if anyone could assign a set price they
> would.. I typically say OK if the are selling for say 1000.00 then
> anyone should pay 500 as that 1/2 and wholsale o where they could retail
> and make a good margin profit..But many dealerswant to buy at 10% of
> retail or 100 on a 1000 poster,,, which if you can buy a huge lot you
> can do sometimes but you also get the dredge with the good..so sometimes
> its better to cherry pick aand pay more and it take les time and work...
> I like lots as I do for fun what I like to do to provide a way to eat
> andpay bilss... to me ists a dventure learning experienec and when I can
> also make a person happy thats my thrill...and I get to in a small way
> help preserve many movei artifacts,,,its really been a honor and hope i
> can do this and help othesr also...and Ill be happy to share what little
> ive learned with anyone else I can or ehelp peopel who decide they want
> to get rid of collections as I have also learned we need to let go...as
> we are not going totake it with us..:) whats your feelings peopel?? what
> have you learned from years of collecting or saving? I am curios thanks
> Folks have a great Sunday God bless
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