I also would be sorry for Tom to leave Mopo, especially if I'm responsible and 
hope he will reconsider.

I can't apologise for the vintage poster collecting hobby as a whole, and it 
placing prime importance on originality and condition. Which I still believe is 
accurate assessment.

I don't think the London After Midnight poster or The Cowardly Lion costume and 
their values are relevant.

I don't believe it's about money, as original vintage paper can be bought for 
little money.

I do apologise for my original email and it's abrasive tone, and denigrating 
his stock by comparing it to table mats.
If I had fully realised the laminates/reproductions were such a sensitive issue 
I'd have said nothing on the subject.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2014, at 01:15, Tom Martin <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> so... I receieved a  off the grid email from Rich. he said my emails tend to 
> hijack others as i responded whenthey asked for a item to the group.. so ill 
> stop as it appears my items are not what the group needs..and so unless you 
> contact me youll never know what I have...  and . it seems to me its Time for 
> me to leave the group.. because I see i dont fit in here and seem to have 
> opposing ideas then most...I have argued about the minty whites as far back 
> as the 90s and reproductions and honestly cannot relate to posters selling 
> for over 1000 because I got into the business to serve all people of all 
> income..although Ive also sold to every movie studio on the planet so I made 
> some money  maybe by accident I think because people assumed that was the 
> answer..
> well my prioritys are changing I know find it better to help others the to 
> sell stuff .. have no idea how ill do it but if its meant to happen  it 
> will.. I personally believe the world and planet is out of balance
> I dont have a clue whats next but somthings isnt right.
> the oher day I stopped repping a clien after he did something that made me 
> see what and whoI want to be,,, I had jus got him in a musem andmy neighbor 
> who had a breast removed was ill in the hospial with infection..
> her mother wanted to visit and she asked me to take her.. I did.. when I saw 
> the man later and told him what I had done he looked with discust and said 
> maybe they should write you a check... in other words he didnt care and see 
> any purpose of me helping... I looked him straight in e eye and said we are 
> done !! and I will never rep him for any amount of money as those people 
> where worth more to me.not because they are rich as they are not and not for 
> anything other then they where genuine kind people ,, he was rich,, and had 
> owned a huge company and thought money allowed him to treat people with low 
> regard..well..maybe Ill die broke..but if people lke that are sucess I want 
> to be the bigest failier in the world.. ..Out of respect for all people on 
> MOPO I will unsubscribe myself I also may do same on facebook as I really 
> need to change directions on many things..if anyone needs to talk call me. 
> its that simple 419-474-3065/// best of luck to everone God bless
> .
> n 2014-11-27 19:13, [email protected] wrote:
>> It's just my experience that people who collect originals have near
>> zero interest in repros.
>> And for irreversible processes like laminating or near irreversible
>> like dry-mounting, similar level of appeal.
>> It's not snobbery, I really couldn't care less what floats someone's
>> boat, within reason.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 00:04, Tom Martin 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Ok good Richard thats a opinion...could you explain how that opinion was 
>>> formed?? and how that kind of view was ever obtained? who are the founders 
>>> of collecting movie posters? what dates and places did these people set the 
>>> standards of collecting movie posters>? I would like to know as in my 38 
>>> years of buying and selling no one has told me how it became written in 
>>> stone. who would be the top collectors in the world and are they movie 
>>> motion picture fans of the medium or simply investors. If they are die hard 
>>> collectors and fans whats there background in Motion pictures and how did 
>>> they obtain millions of dollars to buy them?
>>> Does the 77 year old former Usa Marine have less of a love for the 
>>> universal pictures monsters  because he bought some not all reproductions 
>>> between the 1960s and 1990s...I dont think so matter of fact he showed me a 
>>> lifetime collecion and although Morrie has a epic collection this mans 
>>> colletion was just as impressive to me.. not becuse it contained so many 
>>> rare obsessive items but the passion he had was the same as any movie lover 
>>> from the 1800s on up..you see money cost doesnt get you in the club...the 
>>> childlike wonder and passion and desire to share it gets you your wings IMHO
>>> thas what the inventors, the filmammkers, actors, camermen and technition 
>>> and all that love the art medium share.. only a few feel conquests of 
>>> selling or buying a inanimate object are the relics of moviedome
>>> these are not the same although if they have any sense they would share 
>>> these images with others as John Kisch dos with Black cinema art.. as that 
>>> gives the collection a educational Purpose..
>>> Because I have to tell you the man I met has more integrity in one finger 
>>> then probably 75% of most money grubing so called dealers on mopo.. as it 
>>> was not about the money for him...
>>> it was about the motion pictures and the overall experience as he attended 
>>> movie collector shows and saw many thins in person,, he went to lon chaneys 
>>> grave he met many old stars...and he watched countless films , built 
>>> monster models and saved the collection for some 40years + and you discount 
>>> people like that? let me tell you its people like that that supported the 
>>> movies while you where not even thought of by your mommy and daddy !! and 
>>> dont you ever forget it,, they are the benchmark of why Hollywood even made 
>>> these things when Posters where meant to just stimulate people to buy a 15 
>>> cent ticket...not get caught up in all this nonsense of selling it... heck 
>>> Burt lahr probably didnt get paid anywhere near 3 mill maybe like 30,000 to 
>>> do the damn Movie,,isnt that whats worth something? not a flea infested 
>>> suit that MGM had in the trash that a junk dealer found. supposedly., so to 
>>> insult repro's is to insult what hollywood is... its all fantasy and 
>>> illusions and whether repros or video or anything it all is important in 
>>> showing the history of films..otherwise why is a " London after midnight 
>>> important when people have not even seen it except excerpts.? and some Guy 
>>> just posted a argintine poser of the same art ..is that worth 500k? if not 
>>> why not and why was it not mentioned as being around? same art different 
>>> lettering is all..."
>>> smoke and Mirrors"  its nonsense.thank God 90% of the world agrees with 
>>> me..or they would all be buying this foolishness.Ive tryed to appeal to 
>>> people as many people are left in the dark about collecting.. it seems like 
>>> the ones that know are liquidating and taking the money and running.I am 
>>> very happy to sell a collector a affordable poster that wont cause them 
>>> financial hardship or be impossible to sell once they get it and times get 
>>> soft...
>>> I am always open to hearing why people get there views but I has of yet not 
>>> heard one reason why reproductions are a bad thing if a person loves the 
>>> art and movie and wants some eye candy or to give a gift or to show others 
>>> the art of film..
>>> just as a book contains images of posters a actual full sized reproduction 
>>> is much more visual and pronounced. thank YOU
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