Absolutely Tommy. What led me to contact them initially were the supposed Studio Canal connection, the Pinewood business address on the listings, and that they were selling multiple copies over time. With such an apparently cast iron provenance, it's understandable that people would tend to trust their descriptions at face value. It can be a tricky area after all, and to be fair, most of their items are first release in really nice condition. It's just that the better titles are more likely subject for re-releases, which always leads me to be the nasty suspicious person I am! Assuming they didn't set out to be deceptive at first, it shows that even people in the industry aren't necessarily the experts on past history. For all we know, the person selling them might be a teenager on work experience with little knowledge of that ancient period known as the twentieth century! I dread to think how inaccurate their archive might be.
Going back to Scars of Dracula in particular, as I mentioned the EMI box logo appears to start end of 1970, so I guess it's feasible either 1-sheet could be 1st release, and you're not wrong to bring up the question. The Anglo-EMI vs EMI Film Distributors Ltd credit makes me think the duotone poster is a slightly later release though (and because it's duotone). Perhaps a better man or woman than me can nail it down for sure tho. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tommy Barr <[email protected]> To: speedysumo <[email protected]> CC: MoPo-L <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:00 Subject: Re: [MOPO] English one sheets I should just confirm, though, that there is a connection from the seller to StudioCanal, as I contacted SC before bidding to buy any of the posters, and they informed me that the eBayers were acting on their behalf. On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 16:56, Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote: Oops - lesson in don't believe what you're told for me here. Apologies to EMP. It was the sellers of the StudioCanal archive who told me that, but they insisted it was StudioCanal who had informed them. On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 15:47, Paul Gerrard <[email protected]> wrote: I'd generally agree with you Matt, although the block EMI logo starts appearing on posters from the end of 1970, e.g. Railway Children quad (tho not UK 1-sheet!), Raging Moon quad etc. Similar situation exists with UK 1-sheets with the Thorn EMI logo. EMI didn't merge with Thorn until 1979, so that throws up some further re-releases from the seller I think you're talking about. I did contact them about these things along with lots of evidence, but after initially appearing receptive, they finally chose to ignore it and said they weren't doing anything wrong. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnston <[email protected]> To: MoPo-L <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:29 Subject: Re: [MOPO] English one sheets The block EMI logo wasn’t used until 1976: http://www.closinglogos.com/page/EMI+Films+%28UK%29 Keep in mind the person selling the the duo-tone English 1-sheets has no relation to Studio Canal. So none of this info is “according to Studio Canal…” — it’s according some some seller on eBay. They’ve been listing the Peeping Tom 1-sheets with the block EMI logo as original release also. There is a much different (and much more rare) day-glo English export 1-sheet that turned up in France that is almost certainly from the first release. It uses the Anglo-Amalgamated logo, the same distribution company that released Peeping Tom in England in 1960. http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11353878.html My money would be on most/all of those duo-tone English 1-sheets being re-release posters. On Sep 25, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote: In today's auction on emovieposters there are 2 English one sheets for Scars of Dracula, one listed as the first release and one as an undated re-release. While there is no doubt that the full colour poster is the first release, according to StudioCanal who now own the archive for most English studios, the bi-colour version is also a first release, but for international distribution. I informed emp of that but for some reason, and with no other evidence, they are sticking to the re-release attribution. There are a number of posters I have identified that exist n a first release full colour domestic version and a bi-colour international one, among them The Man Who Fell To Earth, Murder On The Orient Express, That'll Be The Day, Horrors of the Black Museum and Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 AD. Tommy To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
