Yes, Tommy. I have to negotiate with my husband about purchasing a poster. Not something I love but it helps in not buying outside of my collection. Also I have many other expenses I have to be mindful. Where to hang it?!! He doesn’t care. THANKFULLY! I on the other hand don’t like cluttered walls so I do what you do.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 3:09 AM Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote: > It's great to see the way discussions here can morph from poster prices to > Star Wars to collectors' wives. In reply to Toochis I think the fact that > she is also a collector means that she may not be typical. I know that I > have had to negotiate with my wife for specific spaces for hanging posters, > so have to rotate those on display and those stored occasionally. > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 08:09, David Kusumoto <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I remember the Style D when it came out. It appealed to us "old boomers" >> who understood the "retro spirit" of Lucas's vision of Star Wars being a >> vintage weekend matinee serial. My first was TACKED onto my bedroom wall >> and my pals would say, "That doesn't look like a Star Wars poster." - >> hanging as it did next to my equally TACKED Style A. (I never owned the >> Style C.) Later, I heard people call it the "circus poster," and I >> wondered, "who comes up with these names?" >> >> My guesses about why Style D never caught fire are - 1) It's an homage >> and thus doesn't look like what collectors expect from SW, notwithstanding >> Lucas's preference for it, and, 2) Style D was issued in 1978, deep into >> its FIRST run but before the celebrated "first anniversary" poster that >> fetches $$ today. I also think there's a bias for 1977 issue paper vs. >> later re-issues - and the style D was also re-issued as a fan-club >> one-sheet in 1992. In my lifetime, I think I've owned about 7-8 style As, >> including a few first printings which - back then - I didn't know the >> difference and why they might be important to later generations. (My first >> posters were purchased at Comic-Con in San Diego.) In hindsight, I now >> find the style A to be color "drab" - which is a personal thing yet >> consistent with my early collecting years of treating posters like books, >> e.g., caring only about first-issue country-of-origin one-sheets of films >> that I had to love MORE than the poster. It's why I hung onto the >> pre-Awards "Graduate" one-sheets despite the BQ looking better. >> >> Of course, if I could be young again, I'd chase art regardless of what I >> thought of a film's merits, and I'd go heavy into BQs and Australian >> daybills. I never collected horror because as I say, back then I had to >> LOVE the movie too. And "Frankenstein" was the only classic that made the >> cut - even though I could never afford it, then and now. When I >> re-discovered Rita Hayworth via "Gilda," the Style B was the perfect match >> of poster art with a script loaded with sexual tension, power and ownership >> themes, delivered via double entendrés which I felt were ahead of its >> time. It's a kinky picture. If I could do a "rewind" - I'd chase "The >> Invasion of the Saucer Men" with those cabbage head aliens - but because my >> wife forbade horror images in the house - I would've kept that poster in my >> work room so she wouldn't be creeped out by it. >> >> It was Freeman Fisher who said it best. "The greatest obstacle to >> collecting posters you want isn't money - it's having wives." -d. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Smith, >> Grey - 1367 <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:54 AM >> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: Auction Prices >> >> >> Hi Tommy and MOPO, >> >> I’m not sure I have any terrific insight other than business seems to >> have grown well during the last year and likely due to a number of reasons. >> >> I suggest the already discussed stay at home element makes people more >> interested in online activity and the need of a pleasant distraction. I >> also agree that spending on other entertainment has been curtailed so seems >> more activity in buying items of personal interest. I’m not so sure how >> much is being spent by those wishing to more diversely invest in their >> portfolio in collectibles, but there surely must be that element too. >> >> I’m thankful for the gain in the hobby and hope perhaps those who’ve not >> spent on posters before will, as we always seem to have a steady growth in >> the hobby with new buyers. >> >> >> >> ----- >> >> >> >> *From:* MoPo List <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tommy >> Barr >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:07 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Auction Prices >> >> >> >> *External Email* >> >> My favourite Star Wars poster is the style D one sheet, which apparently >> was the one George Lucas had displayed in his office, yet it doesn't seem >> to be very popular among collectors. As regards the poster auction prices, >> I wonder if Grey or Bruce can offer any insights? >> >> >> >> Tommy >> >> >> >> ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 12:40, David Kusumoto <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Helmut and Tommy - you guys are onto something. Because yesterday I was >> tracking a Blazing Saddles insert at Heritage and I saw it jump to near >> $200 with its 20% buyer's premium, a poster that can be had for a little >> more or a little less, depending upon condition and this one was pretty >> nice. A Star Wars public health vaccination poster sold for a hefty amount >> too. Yes, there is something going on with the market. >> >> >> >> Meanwhile, at Nathalie, LOL. Yes I agree with you - a Johansson image on >> a poster is definitely one of personal taste. Maybe I, too, wouldn't pay >> "two cents" for an image of her on a poster from any of her recent films - >> (although I did like her in "Hitchcock" and "Marriage Story") - and even >> though she's almost jail bait in Sofia Coppola's Oscar-winning "Lost in >> Translation," a contemplative drama more than a comedy - I WOULD pay two >> cents for this.... >> >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8798/8brXpr.jpg >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__imagizer.imageshack.com_img923_8798_8brXpr.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D03pYNlCxo1ES3gYVXxnxa61Lf80sedKVS5k9kL9xToA%26r%3D5Zsg7Uh_TXidOEjAziT8qDdZz28JZS1XAJHmIoJP84s%26m%3DML73X9QdCA9v7eJ4bn-el3F5ihm2nqLboCN5oPLyC4w%26s%3DXSKWYjR2IJQqaFV52Bxr7EWNxTUdOxmkKc_FaBOqhZA%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7C%7C735ba6a1f388403f6f0108d8dd9beac9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503009017314254%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=faBGieUztG16rHcSVdczlz%2BiCn2yQrSQ%2FPRPH08irm0%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> ... but I wouldn't pay a nickel for the satirical poster below from 1997, >> LOL - (even though a ton of Seinfeld fans would)... >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8946/IBnMBj.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> *But here's a question I'll throw out there for MoPo'ers and buyers and >> dealers to think about. It's about "Star Wars" posters from 1977.* Now >> that at least three generations have embraced the first 1977 film - I'm >> puzzled why this 43-year-old half-sheet... >> >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5577/fZ6t6z.jpg >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__imagizer.imageshack.com_img924_5577_fZ6t6z.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D03pYNlCxo1ES3gYVXxnxa61Lf80sedKVS5k9kL9xToA%26r%3D5Zsg7Uh_TXidOEjAziT8qDdZz28JZS1XAJHmIoJP84s%26m%3DML73X9QdCA9v7eJ4bn-el3F5ihm2nqLboCN5oPLyC4w%26s%3D05ruqZ_HnLNaoYaEFOqiMVL4vroY2AopvawxK3hvAGY%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7C%7C735ba6a1f388403f6f0108d8dd9beac9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503009017324239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WvQ%2F2BGhrWXllvKcQpOe6s%2FLt9xU7cKTtGfXfnUphGE%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> ...which has arguably better art by Tom Jung than other domestic '77 >> issue posters - (save for probably the Chantrell Style C) - rarely sells >> for more than $1,000. It seems stuck in that range like a money market >> fund with no interest. The half-sheet has never been implicated among the >> bootlegs like the minty inserts, the Style A or Style C knock-offs. Yet >> when offered - it's not just underrated - but unloved - even though to me, >> it's a great collage of what's in the film. *Do collectors think the >> half-sheet format hurts it?* As a horizontal poster, maybe not as good >> as the Chantrell British Quad which resembles the Style C - but I think >> it's still good - with an image only seen on the half-sheet. I thought >> maybe the reason is some think it's "too busy." Can't put my finger on why >> it's regarded as an "also-ran," not as good as the other domestic 1977 >> posters. >> >> >> >> ***perplexed* -d. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Helmut >> Hamm <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 1, 2021 6:03 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Auction prices >> >> >> >> Tommy, >> >> >> >> I think there is one simple reason: With shops, bars, and restaurants >> closed in wide parts of the world and no holiday trips in sight either, >> many people have a lot of extra cash to spend. Many of them are working >> from their home office right now, and no commuting means more extra time to >> spend. And with the kids going on your nerve all day long, online shopping >> might deliver a much needed self-gratification. Well, that was three simple >> reasons... >> >> >> >> Plus, many new collectors may have the false impression that buying at >> auction sort of guarantees a 'fair market price'. In cases like a rare and >> desirable Tarantino poster, this might even be true. If you are bidding >> against another newbie, it's not. Last not least, people are lazy. Ooops, >> that five simple reasons now. >> >> >> >> Helmut >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 01.03.2021 um 12:50 schrieb Tommy Barr <[email protected]>: >> >> >> >> After our musings on the prices fetched at the Ewbank's auction I notice >> that HA has also seen some strange price hikes at the weekend. For example, >> Battle of Britain o/s folded 7.5 @$300; The Lion King o/s rolled 8.5 @$324: >> Titanic 2xo/s rolled 8.5 @$324. Given that those can be bought online for >> a lot less, as has been the case with quite a number sold at auction >> recently, it leaves me perplexed as to what is going here. I don't think >> there is any one simple reason but at the moment movie poster values are >> proving weirdly unpredictable. >> >> >> >> Tommy >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* S Yafet <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:59 PM >> >> *To:* David Kusumoto <[email protected]> >> >> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Ewbanks Auction today - and thoughts about Once >> Upon A Time in Hollywood posters >> >> >> >> Very interesting reading. >> >> Guess it's all personal. I wouldn't pay 2 cents for a Johansson image. >> >> >> >> Nathalie >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 1:36 AM David Kusumoto <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I've noticed similar trends of recent titles fetching higher prices. >> Newbies tend to temporarily push up prices for posters still in release. >> (I remember one-sheets from "Titanic" selling for crazy prices more than 20 >> years ago before falling to earth - and recently, I saw the same for >> one-sheets from "The Shape of Water" and "Parasite" after winning the Oscar >> for Best Picture.) >> >> >> >> But there is another "outlier" of recent note, certainly not vintage - >> and it's the posters from Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon A Time in >> Hollywood" from 2019. The "wilding" Italian-style posters by old-school >> artists Martin Duhovic and Renato Casaro fetch prices north of $1K - but >> even standard one-sheets with collage art by another classic artist - >> (Steven Chorney) - sell at or near the $100 mark in better condition. >> >> >> >> Almost exactly two years ago - "Once Upon A Time..." was "teased" as a >> summer 2019 release - and two one-sheets were shipped to theaters - an >> international "COMING SOON" - and a domestic "JULY" - the latter was tagged >> with a "This film has not yet been rated" in the lower left. Both were >> popular - but the international versions were more - and still remain - >> plentiful. >> >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6972/krbNwK.jpg >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fimagizer.imageshack.com-252Fimg924-252F6972-252FkrbNwK.jpg-26data-3D04-257C01-257C-257C88d475658d7642bffde208d8dc3c8859-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637501499824573696-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DA2IiRR7U0mIDrgWMJVWclAKJHnCINoGpr7-252BCI9BKykA-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D03pYNlCxo1ES3gYVXxnxa61Lf80sedKVS5k9kL9xToA%26r%3D5Zsg7Uh_TXidOEjAziT8qDdZz28JZS1XAJHmIoJP84s%26m%3DML73X9QdCA9v7eJ4bn-el3F5ihm2nqLboCN5oPLyC4w%26s%3DMFZ03i-DiZ5YfdhVQ_isEXlsH79y18rZcDSrIQmwHUA%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7C%7C735ba6a1f388403f6f0108d8dd9beac9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503009017324239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9xyfVtt9QFj9pMqtvkWnxAx4WBlA8oqP1bJmMEDWf48%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7235/yfEDhd.jpg >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fimagizer.imageshack.com-252Fimg922-252F7235-252FyfEDhd.jpg-26data-3D04-257C01-257C-257C88d475658d7642bffde208d8dc3c8859-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637501499824583697-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3D-252Bs-252B72IexJhlFvBgQZk3Oa-252FEKR2pOPNuPBNw2CaBjTow-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D03pYNlCxo1ES3gYVXxnxa61Lf80sedKVS5k9kL9xToA%26r%3D5Zsg7Uh_TXidOEjAziT8qDdZz28JZS1XAJHmIoJP84s%26m%3DML73X9QdCA9v7eJ4bn-el3F5ihm2nqLboCN5oPLyC4w%26s%3DzOnfIvyzhfc7LMP75eCBeIaGs_IPPILosUyiHqifZPQ%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7C%7C735ba6a1f388403f6f0108d8dd9beac9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503009017334239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3ytZ0JzKqo4qF8rdIzy15opX6msz7DSgCcrMkbmacew%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> By the spring of 2019, though, the MPAA issued its "R" rating for >> Tarantino's film. Theaters were already displaying the other one-sheets. >> Nevertheless, Sony-Columbia went ahead and printed a third one-sheet - a >> small batch with the "R" rating in the lower left corner. This became the >> true domestic "final" - even though few theaters displayed it. >> >> >> >> It took me FOREVER for me to find this version and the difficulty made it >> obvious there weren't many - and those that I did see - were unused but >> roughly handled by re-sellers. I mention this because it was right here on >> MoPo - that I first talked about the differences in the three one-sheets >> and why I was looking for the "R" rated final. I solicited dealers >> everywhere, including here on MoPo. Not even the reliable Dale Dilts - who >> specializes in newer release posters, could help. Many months later - I >> finally found one in nice condition - from an amateur re-seller in >> Pennsylvania. >> >> >> >> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8048/Hs9kJW.jpg >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fimagizer.imageshack.com-252Fimg923-252F8048-252FHs9kJW.jpg-26data-3D04-257C01-257C-257C88d475658d7642bffde208d8dc3c8859-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C637501499824593683-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26sdata-3DZ0Gh8iKD-252BW0Tl-252FUnRW4-252F-252FOccQlMbSYiZ8ZbwjM00KVI-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3D03pYNlCxo1ES3gYVXxnxa61Lf80sedKVS5k9kL9xToA%26r%3D5Zsg7Uh_TXidOEjAziT8qDdZz28JZS1XAJHmIoJP84s%26m%3DML73X9QdCA9v7eJ4bn-el3F5ihm2nqLboCN5oPLyC4w%26s%3DHS0SBV_Wh28nb17pGBiJ00-Os1gEflG566RrouM6frM%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7C%7C735ba6a1f388403f6f0108d8dd9beac9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503009017334239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YEKRZOj7TLVupQ5%2FSV5tnlS8VAw0gAeyTBT2iZyhJg4%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> Well, earlier this month, for the first time ever - eMoviePoster put up >> all three known 1-sheets featuring the Steven Chorney art - up against each >> other. Apparently, a few others had the same info that I did. >> >> >> >> 1. International double-sided advance (which is the most plentiful) - >> sold for $108. >> >> 2. Domestic USA single-sided advance with no rating - sold for $142. >> >> 3. Domestic USA double-sided advance FINAL with the R rating - sold for >> $285. >> >> >> >> eMoviePoster had sold the "R" version just once before - a typical "fair" >> condition example that still fetched $90. I'm not sure if Heritage has >> ever sold the "R" version - but it and eMoviePoster have both sold the >> international and the unrated domestic enough times - to rack up a track >> record of prices realized. >> >> >> >> What I'm leading to is I have a funny feeling that no matter how one >> feels the Tarantino film - this "standard theatrical" one-sheet - has a >> shot at joining this century's "Lost in Translation" - (Johansson image, >> 2003) - for being consistently sought after by collectors. I remember >> consigning a giant vinyl banner with the Johansson image (I had nowhere to >> hang it) - I was shocked when it sold for more than $1,000. Even high >> grade DS one-sheets with her image fetch hundreds of $$$. I could be >> wrong, but prices for the Tarantino poster haven't dropped yet. >> >> >> >> Forgive the long ramble, just musings sparked by Helmut's and Tommy's >> observations. - d. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Tommy Barr >> <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:06 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Ewbanks Auction today >> >> >> >> I watched the auction sporadically and agree that there were some strange >> results. I think, however, that prices have been volatile on all the >> auction sites recently, even HA and emovie showing some anomalous >> results.Some posters which normally fetch mid double figures have been >> going for three figures, and the bids on many mid-level items seem to have >> grown exponentially. No idea why, but I can't accept the premise that there >> are lots of new collectors suddenly coming in to the market. I would have >> thought that anyone starting to collect now would initially be looking for >> posters from the comic-inspired superhero movies, Bond or Star Wars, but >> there weren't many of those in the Ewbank's auction. >> >> Tommy >> >> >> >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:34, Helmut Hamm <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Over the day, I watched the Ewbanks auction on and off and the results >> were quite astounding: The best thing they had was a GET CARTER quad, which >> hammered at 3,800 Pounds. A few other lots sold in the 1000-2000 Pound >> range. >> >> >> >> Much more interesting was the vast amount of low-end material that sold >> for astounding prices: A french petite for THE GOONIES hammered for 100 >> Pounds. That‘s about 125 with premium, plus VAT, plus shipping. It >> shouldn‘t be too hard to find one of these on ebay France for 10 to 15 >> Euros. There were tons of stuff like that, including bulk lots, Argentine >> posters, Spanish US posters, a lot of bottom end ebay material. The auction >> lasted overall several hours and I had other things to do in between, but I >> did not see a single pass. >> >> >> >> Most of the lots sold today are totally boring for the seasoned >> collector, but exactly the sort of material that might appeal to beginners. >> >> >> >> It seems to me there was A LOT of new blood present in this auction. >> Obviously, it makes online buying a lot harder for me, but in the end I >> guess it can only be good for the hobby. >> >> >> >> HH >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: >> https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
