What I do is charge a flat shipping fee of $15 on ebay.  for US orders and use 
the global shipping option for international.  I then take my poster to the 
USPS down the street and pay about $10 - $12 for priority mail and the rest 
covers the cost of the tube.   This way you avoid the over priced surcharge of 
$15 for tubes over 30 inches.  A flat rate of $15 and pay postage at the post 
office.
________________________________
From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of David Kusumoto 
<davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:13 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Yes, absolutely, Bruce.  This will have a huge impact on mid-to-low value 
posters being bought overseas.  I mean, how many small sellers in the U.S. are 
going to bulk buy shipping tubes under 32" inches for rolled one-sheets - to 
stay under eBay's 27-inch maximum?  (NO ONE because you can't ship a one-sheet 
in a tube measuring ONLY 27 inches without crimping).  And how many small 
sellers are going to saw their one-sheet tubes to send 23-inch wide A1 posters 
to conform?  As a buyer in the U.S. - it's not like I have a lot of empty A1 
shipping tubes to ship to the occasional buyer overseas.  And get this, eBay's 
contracted rates for Priority Mail International are 5% below retail rates.  
Hence the $67.17 cost to ship a 32" tube to the U.K. that didn't qualify for 
eBay's 27" maximum for all countries - would have cost me $70.70 from the USPS 
site (vs. eBay's platform).

Again, big wow, whoop-de-doo. - d.

________________________________
From: Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 3:53 PM
To: David Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>
Cc: MoPo-L <MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

David and Sue

I really fear that the shipping companies' immense greed will doom the ability 
to sell items at relatively modest prices internationally.

The saddest part is that they keep raising and raising rates, and then UPS just 
announced they had their all-time record profits.

And David, you hit the nail on the head with your last statements. People will 
continue to buy $1,000 items, and not think that much about the shipping, but 
few will still buy $25 or $50 items.

And that will severely hurt the poster business, and all other businesses that 
used to do thriving business selling overseas.

And just as in so many other fields, since there are only 3 main shipping 
companies, as long as they all raise prices together, they have no fear. I 
shudder when I think of where things will be five or ten years from now.

Bruce

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On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 3:24 PM David Kusumoto 
<davidmkusum...@hotmail.com<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Sue -

Yeah, it's incredible. In my case - I'm not a dealer hence I don't bulk buy 
shipping tubes.  I just recycle tubes I have.  I'm not going to use a power saw 
to get "standard" 32 inch long one-sheet tubes down to under the surcharge 
maximum.  What was nutty is when I posted the Louise Brooks poster for sale 
several days ago - I inputted the dimensions and even the weight of the package 
BEFORE it sold, i.e., 32x3x3.  I pre-packed it because I knew it would 
eventually sell - and I rolled it between Kraft paper slightly narrower so it 
wouldn't touch the sides of a 3-inch wide tube, the five-star treatment because 
no one likes dings from conveyor belts transferring to posters inside which are 
becoming more common.

It was only AFTER the poster sold - that when I went to print out an eBay 
shipping label - I saw - for the first time - that eBay International Delivery 
to the UK was $38 - but only for packages 27 inches or shorter.  I was SOL.  
Only other option at that point was to get Priority Mail International for 
$67.17 as I wasn't going to "un-do" my pre-packing work to access the $38 
charge. So I absorbed the $29 difference between what the buyer paid and the 
actual cost.

The cautionary for me was seeing how eBay acts as an separate shipping entity 
with its "eBay International Delivery" - with its own contracted rates with 
shippers like UPS, DHL, Royal Mail, etc. - in every country.  There was no 
prior notice about package maximum dimensions until I tried to print out a 
label.

The reason for my post is I don't know how anyone can ship posters overseas 
UNLESS they are mid-to-high retail value so that a dealer can still make money. 
 If this had been a $200 poster, you know, I could justify my one-time 
ignorance and move on.  I would have still made money, however negligible.  But 
this was a $50 poster that did not qualify for eBay International Delivery - 
and the result of my ignorance was a LOSS - with net proceeds of only $10.69.

I could sour grapes the whole thing by saying (truthfully) - that my plan was 
to TACK Louise in my garage because it's a poster that eMoviePoster has sold in 
the past from $40-80, not worth the hassle to consign unless I could send $200 
worth of items to meet his consignment acceptance minimum.  But I put it up on 
eBay via MoPo - because I KNEW, someone would like it.  And the buyer, you 
know, I mean, he paid what I think was a FORTUNE for this poster when you tack 
on his $38 shipping contribution plus VAT.  I'm not going to screw over anyone 
who buys in good faith even though I get screwed by being ignorant about how 
each "shipping system" works, e.g., UPS, USPS, eBay International delivery, 
DHL, FedEx, etc.   So I have no choice but to say - "For a poster I had planned 
to TACK in my garage with the insects out there - a $10.69 pay day is better 
than zero."  COLD COMFORT. -d.

________________________________
From: Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com<mailto:filmfantast...@msn.com>>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:06 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
<MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>; David 
Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Hey Dave,
  I hear your pain.....so, I ship a lot of tubes and I wasn't notified that in 
January UPS changed the fees for shipping a tube.  I have cases of 32x3x3 
tubes.  So, I got
hit with $15 additional fees on my UPS invoice for all the tubes I shipped in 
January and February.  I wasn't notified of this until the beginning of March.  
When
I typed in the information for the UPS label the price they gave me did not 
include the $15 surcharge and that is the only reason I was able to get them to
reverse those charges.  But from that March date on, I'm on notice of the new 
surcharge and I have not used UPS but rather the post office.  Now, as of last
week, the post office has instituted the $15 surcharge on that tube...Fedex 
instituted the additional $15 charge on that tube last year and I guess 
everyone else
is just following along...I have so many ebay auctions set up that I can't 
really change my shipping and add
$15 to it or it makes the shipping look incredibly high to a buying a 
customer.....

   So, Helmut's response to your post made the light go off in my head.....I 
will just have to cut my tubes down to under 30".  Since most of what I'm 
shipping
in tubes are rolled one sheets, they are only 27" wide, so even if I cut the 
tube down to 28" or 29", I am under that 30" mark and it will only be $4 more
for additional handling as tubes between 22" and 30" have a $4 additional 
handling charge.  While it's a hassle to cut down the tube, better $4 than $15.

   To be honest, I don't really see how handling a tube is different than 
handling a box, but they will get you anyway they can.  I talked to my rep at 
Fedex
and they said it's because so many tubes roll off the conveyor belt they move 
along on and guys are having to go over and pick them up and that's why
they added the $15 cost.......amazing.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames
(800) 463-2994
________________________________
From: MoPo List 
<mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf 
of David Kusumoto 
<davidmkusum...@hotmail.com<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 10:27 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
<MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
Subject: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my 
R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Three days after posting this on MoPo - My Louise Brooks poster (see preceding 
email below) - sold for $50 yesterday.  I knew about the USPS and UPS 
surcharges for poster tubes - but for some stupid reason - I thought eBay - for 
those of us who aren't part of its global shipping program - are availed to 
access discounted shipping rates for non-dealers under what's called "eBay 
International Delivery" - whereby eBay provides point-to-point service 
including dealing with customs, etc. - before handing items off to each 
country's contracted delivery service.  eBay International Delivery provides 
full tracking options.

After a UK buyer won the poster for $50 - (plus a "displayed" eBay 
International Delivery rate of $38 to the UK + $17.60 VAT, etc. = a whopping 
$105.60) - for a poster shipped in a 32x3x3 tube - I was shocked to learn after 
I packed the thing - that eBay International Delivery - NOW prevents shipping 
items longer than 27 inches in length.  It warned of severe penalties, e.g., 
higher tack-on costs - for shippers breaking its new dimension and weight rules.

I was thus forced to purchase USPS Priority International Mail - at a cost of 
$67.17. Higher than the "retail" cost of the $50 poster itself.

Of course I still honored the deal - because it's not the buyer's fault when a 
seller incurs higher than expected shipping costs.  He paid $38 for shipping 
whie my actual shipping for Priority Mail International I was forced to use - 
was $67.17 -  which meant I absorbed the $29.17 difference between my $67.17 
and his $38 contribution.  Thus - after paying seller fees of $10.14 on a $50 
poster + the $29.17 difference for shipping = this poster just netted me only 
$10.69.

I became obsessed with eBay's ultra-complicated / Byzantine fee structure I 
here's what I found after my mishap:

TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:
Louise Brooks Poster     $ 50.00
Buyer Paid Shipping      $ 38.00
VAT*                     $ 17.60
-----------------------------------
TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:     $105.60

=======================================

TOTAL FEES I PAID -
First, here's eBay's "cost basis" -
Louise Brooks Poster           $50.00
VAT                           +$17.60
--------------------------------------
eBay Fees are based on         $67.60

==========================================
eBay Fees breakdown:

Variable % • Entertainment Memorabilia
Rate for items sold up to $7,500.00 is 12.9%

$67.60 cost basis × 12.9% =   -$ 8.72

International Fee because buyer is in the U.K.
$67.60 cost basis × 1.65% =   -$ 1.12
----------------------------------------------------------
Insertion (FVF) Fee           -$ 0.30
----------------------------------------------------------
Total eBay fees               -$10.14

==========================================================
eBay's calculations to me:
Buyer paid $50 for poster + $38 for shipping =  $88.00
Minus Fees based on $67.60 (see above)         -$10.14
----------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal Net....................................$77.86
Minus Priority Mail International Shipping    - $67.17 (because eBay 
International Shipping rejects tubes > than 27"
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MY TOTAL NET for a poster that sold for $50.....$10.69

===========================================================
Could eBay make this any MORE COMPLICATED?

If I had consigned to Bruce based on a $50 sale - my take would have been 
$32.50 (35%) - WAY ABOVE the $10.69 I'm getting from eBay.   I didn't consign 
because I didn't have more items to throw in to meet his enforced $200 retail 
min. per consignment package.

And because the Louise Brooks poster is a low value niche item - I figured it 
was worth putting it on eBay, as I figured I could net, I don't know, at least 
$35 or $40 after fees were paid.

With the previously mentioned $15 surcharges by UPS and USPS to ship tubes 
greater than 22 inches - combined with eBay capping its "eBay International 
Delivery" service to to tubes or packages NO GREATER than 27 inches long - it's 
obvious that the days of shipping posters in tubes overseas - is only going to 
be worth it for high value posters, not mid-to-low value ones.

I have even greater appreciation for the aggravations independent dealers have 
to face staying afloat with nonsense like this. - d.

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of David Kusumoto 
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Subject: FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 
23x33 A1

FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1

Up for sale (though with the recently discussed UPS and USPS surcharges for 
poster tubes - this may sit up there for a while) - is a R2018 special 
presentation A1 poster of the restored 1927 film, "Berlin - Die Sinfonie Der 
Grosstadt" ("BERLIN - SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY").

A giant high-resolution image of this exact poster with some edge wear on the 
top right edge - is hosted at the following link (with the eMoviePoster 
watermark which is where I purchased it - and displayed for a few years before 
swapping it out of its frame last week with a French Raquel poster).  Spotting 
is part of the printed image, not a defect:

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Meanwhile, sale listing details are here with smaller photos recently taken 
showing no change in condition:
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CITY (1927 / 2018)". in May 2018 of the. LOUISE BROOKS. OF A GREAT. ---SEE ALL 
LARGE PHOTOS BELOW---. (Not a Reproduction.). Special Presentation.
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From: Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com<mailto:filmfantast...@msn.com>>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:06 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
<MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>; David 
Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of 
my R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Hey Dave,
  I hear your pain.....so, I ship a lot of tubes and I wasn't notified that in 
January UPS changed the fees for shipping a tube.  I have cases of 32x3x3 
tubes.  So, I got
hit with $15 additional fees on my UPS invoice for all the tubes I shipped in 
January and February.  I wasn't notified of this until the beginning of March.  
When
I typed in the information for the UPS label the price they gave me did not 
include the $15 surcharge and that is the only reason I was able to get them to
reverse those charges.  But from that March date on, I'm on notice of the new 
surcharge and I have not used UPS but rather the post office.  Now, as of last
week, the post office has instituted the $15 surcharge on that tube...Fedex 
instituted the additional $15 charge on that tube last year and I guess 
everyone else
is just following along...I have so many ebay auctions set up that I can't 
really change my shipping and add
$15 to it or it makes the shipping look incredibly high to a buying a 
customer.....

   So, Helmut's response to your post made the light go off in my head.....I 
will just have to cut my tubes down to under 30".  Since most of what I'm 
shipping
in tubes are rolled one sheets, they are only 27" wide, so even if I cut the 
tube down to 28" or 29", I am under that 30" mark and it will only be $4 more
for additional handling as tubes between 22" and 30" have a $4 additional 
handling charge.  While it's a hassle to cut down the tube, better $4 than $15.

   To be honest, I don't really see how handling a tube is different than 
handling a box, but they will get you anyway they can.  I talked to my rep at 
Fedex
and they said it's because so many tubes roll off the conveyor belt they move 
along on and guys are having to go over and pick them up and that's why
they added the $15 cost.......amazing.

Sue
Hollywood Poster Frames
(800) 463-2994
________________________________
From: MoPo List 
<mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf 
of David Kusumoto 
<davidmkusum...@hotmail.com<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 10:27 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
<MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>>
Subject: [MOPO] WHOOP-DI-DOO - I netted just $10.69 from a $50 eBay sale of my 
R2018 Louise Brooks poster.

Three days after posting this on MoPo - My Louise Brooks poster (see preceding 
email below) - sold for $50 yesterday.  I knew about the USPS and UPS 
surcharges for poster tubes - but for some stupid reason - I thought eBay - for 
those of us who aren't part of its global shipping program - are availed to 
access discounted shipping rates for non-dealers under what's called "eBay 
International Delivery" - whereby eBay provides point-to-point service 
including dealing with customs, etc. - before handing items off to each 
country's contracted delivery service.  eBay International Delivery provides 
full tracking options.

After a UK buyer won the poster for $50 - (plus a "displayed" eBay 
International Delivery rate of $38 to the UK + $17.60 VAT, etc. = a whopping 
$105.60) - for a poster shipped in a 32x3x3 tube - I was shocked to learn after 
I packed the thing - that eBay International Delivery - NOW prevents shipping 
items longer than 27 inches in length.  It warned of severe penalties, e.g., 
higher tack-on costs - for shippers breaking its new dimension and weight rules.

I was thus forced to purchase USPS Priority International Mail - at a cost of 
$67.17. Higher than the "retail" cost of the $50 poster itself.

Of course I still honored the deal - because it's not the buyer's fault when a 
seller incurs higher than expected shipping costs.  He paid $38 for shipping 
whie my actual shipping for Priority Mail International I was forced to use - 
was $67.17 -  which meant I absorbed the $29.17 difference between my $67.17 
and his $38 contribution.  Thus - after paying seller fees of $10.14 on a $50 
poster + the $29.17 difference for shipping = this poster just netted me only 
$10.69.

I became obsessed with eBay's ultra-complicated / Byzantine fee structure I 
here's what I found after my mishap:

TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:
Louise Brooks Poster     $ 50.00
Buyer Paid Shipping      $ 38.00
VAT*                     $ 17.60
-----------------------------------
TOTAL PAID BY BUYER:     $105.60

=======================================

TOTAL FEES I PAID -
First, here's eBay's "cost basis" -
Louise Brooks Poster           $50.00
VAT                           +$17.60
--------------------------------------
eBay Fees are based on         $67.60

==========================================
eBay Fees breakdown:

Variable % • Entertainment Memorabilia
Rate for items sold up to $7,500.00 is 12.9%

$67.60 cost basis × 12.9% =   -$ 8.72

International Fee because buyer is in the U.K.
$67.60 cost basis × 1.65% =   -$ 1.12
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Insertion (FVF) Fee           -$ 0.30
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Total eBay fees               -$10.14

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eBay's calculations to me:
Buyer paid $50 for poster + $38 for shipping =  $88.00
Minus Fees based on $67.60 (see above)         -$10.14
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Subtotal Net....................................$77.86
Minus Priority Mail International Shipping    - $67.17 (because eBay 
International Shipping rejects tubes > than 27"
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MY TOTAL NET for a poster that sold for $50.....$10.69

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Could eBay make this any MORE COMPLICATED?

If I had consigned to Bruce based on a $50 sale - my take would have been 
$32.50 (35%) - WAY ABOVE the $10.69 I'm getting from eBay.   I didn't consign 
because I didn't have more items to throw in to meet his enforced $200 retail 
min. per consignment package.

And because the Louise Brooks poster is a low value niche item - I figured it 
was worth putting it on eBay, as I figured I could net, I don't know, at least 
$35 or $40 after fees were paid.

With the previously mentioned $15 surcharges by UPS and USPS to ship tubes 
greater than 22 inches - combined with eBay capping its "eBay International 
Delivery" service to to tubes or packages NO GREATER than 27 inches long - it's 
obvious that the days of shipping posters in tubes overseas - is only going to 
be worth it for high value posters, not mid-to-low value ones.

I have even greater appreciation for the aggravations independent dealers have 
to face staying afloat with nonsense like this. - d.

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Subject: FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 
23x33 A1

FS: LOUISE BROOKS ORIGINAL GERMAN 2018 BERLIN SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY 23x33 A1

Up for sale (though with the recently discussed UPS and USPS surcharges for 
poster tubes - this may sit up there for a while) - is a R2018 special 
presentation A1 poster of the restored 1927 film, "Berlin - Die Sinfonie Der 
Grosstadt" ("BERLIN - SYMPHONY OF A GREAT CITY").

A giant high-resolution image of this exact poster with some edge wear on the 
top right edge - is hosted at the following link (with the eMoviePoster 
watermark which is where I purchased it - and displayed for a few years before 
swapping it out of its frame last week with a French Raquel poster).  Spotting 
is part of the printed image, not a defect:

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