The movie DW Griffith birth of a nation was the reason why the Lillian
Gish theater was changed because it offended somebody they were born in
rising Sun Ohio about 30 miles from Toledo Lillian and her and her
sister Dorothy Gish
Tom
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977
On 2023-10-26 12:59, [email protected] wrote:
David and Sean and mopo
since i started in Biz its became very sensitive of Political correct
in the movie biz... for instance the lillian Gish theater in Bowling
green state university 30 mile from was was changed because it was
associated with the Dw Griffith film as well as Disneys Song of the
south and other films that depict Black actors as negative I think the
naacp enforced it. However also i believe the vaitive americans have
had issue as well as Jewish communityand also Japanese Americans if
their heritage was presented in negative light.. so out of respect we
need to honor those offended by that in sales of memorabilia..I
remembr just in the 70s people collected Black memorabilia my friend
John Kish dida booki on Black cinema poster called a separate cinema
that had a great collection of Black movie posters ... Spike lee and
also keys did the forewordofthe book./// he has the tv show about
people roots
I sold to Herb Bridges who wrote books on GWTW and worked fora Atlanta
newspaperand worked with the Ted Turner Family
so BG has one of the best collections of POP cultutre in the USA..i
did some appraisals for the producer of e-hollywood true storys who
donated his material to BG his name was Jeff Shore the producer//they
did some great shows
I guess we need tosee everyone is sensitive to pastand modify our
sales to not offend any Race, religion or culture the movies ifyou
consider taught kids racism ofhow they depicted.. Japanese, Germans,
Italians, china amd asians. Russians. Black and middle eaterns and
Indians inthe early cinema.. sad but true//
even the genders and gays were [ainted as a certain way and who cam
forget Al Jolson and black face comedy we just didntsee many were
offended.. Now we do...I dont have any big answer except to love
everyone and respect all.. Mel brooks made the point if we removed all
the gay people therwould be no cinema anymorew as all the
hairdresssors, actorsand make up artists would not be around..
Therefore love everybody regardless of race or color or religion and
help everybody you can because we are all brothers and sisters
regardless of our heritage God bless everybody and let's hope people
wake up and start treating each other as neighbors not as enemies
Tom
Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977
On 2023-10-25 23:33, Sean Linkenback wrot> Sounds like you should have
just sent it to Bruce to start with.
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:30 PM David Kusumoto
<[email protected]> wrote:
* JUST WANTED TO SHARE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME RECENTLY.
* A FEW MONTHS AGO, I POSTED A GWTW PROGRAM FOR SALE - the recalled
version featuring Hattie McDaniel on the back. Someone reported me -
and it got taken down and labeled as offensive. I guess whoever
reported me - judged the program as being akin to selling Nazi
memorabilia, I don't know.
* I RE-LISTED IT - BUT HAD TO ADD EXHAUSTIVE HISTORICAL CONTEXT
WHICH I PERSONALLY RESEARCHED - about how McDaniel was banned from
the Atlanta and NYC premieres, etc. - adding citations about the
program itself - from Ron Haver from 1980 and from an LA Daily News
story - the latter reporting the Hattie program's appearance at the
LA premiere she attended in late Dec. 1939 at the Carthay Pacific
(Fox Village Westwood) - through early 1940.
* EVENTUALLY, ALL GWTW PROGRAMS including the blank back ones at the
premieres - were replaced by Selznick marketing executive Howard
Dietz - with programs which took out Hattie and replaced her with
actress Alicia Rhett, who had a minor role. But I got to thinking -
why am I fighting this at all with them? Rare book dealers in the
know have all told me the Hattie programs - are outnumbered by the
blank back ones and the Alicia Rhett ones - by a factor of
thousands. It's the rare circumstance - whereby a commercial program
- can be worth a few hundred bucks or more depending upon condition.
* HATTIE'S PROGRAM WAS NOT BANNED BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED
OFFENSIVE IN 1939-40. It was banned because Selznick / MGM
distribution / Howard Dietz did NOT want to potentially offend
paying customers, esp. in segregated America. On the other hand -
eBay's ban in 2023 - is based upon the program being considered
offensive by TODAY'S cultural standards. These are huge but
important differences.
* SO I TOOK MY PROGRAM DOWN and sent it to eMoviePoster - where it's
supposed to appear in December.
* WHAT I'M IRRITATED ABOUT - is the whole "you have to explain
everything" while defending yourself from people who think you're a
racist - even when it comes to old movie posters. I mean, you know,
you're a branch-to-root racist for selling material considered
offensive today, even if you put it in context to discourage this
sort of takedown. eBay doesn't know who I am, really, though I do
sell a few tschotskes over there like signed first editions, etc.
* BUT WHAT HAPPENED BUGGED ME. This has never happened to me
before. Hattie McDaniel - including her name - was kept off of all
GWTW movie posters and subsequent re-issue posters for 50 years -
for reasons we know. She was given line-credits only - and her
likeness was scrubbed from all promotional materials until 1989.
Her likeness didn't even APPEAR on a re-issue poster until 1998. I
suppose you can't sell posters featuring Amos and Andy, Birth of a
Nation nor the Jazz Singer over there either. Without Hattie, the
first African-American actor to win an Academy Award - GWTW is a
different movie and loses its moral center - regardless of how
people look at her depiction today. To me - she's the smartest
character in the movie.
* BUT APPARENTLY - THIS STUFF IS SELECTIVELY ENFORCED BY THE
"COMMUNITY STANDARDS" POLICE. Because today I stumbled upon the
following listing in lesser condition than the one I own - which I
believe is also in lesser condition than the example eMoviePoster
sold many months ago for more than $2K.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314909361404 [1]
* AND NO, I DON'T PLAN TO REPORT THIS - BUT I THINK THE WHOLE THING
IS NUTTY. Parenthetically, the seller's handle is familiar in a way
that escapes me now. His listing does NOT come up in regular
searches over there, e.g., "Gone with the Wind program." It didn't
for me, anyway. Maybe if you add the search word, "recalled" - it
will come up, but otherwise it's not in the general listings. Just
shaking my head. No reply necessary, just venting. - d.
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