My apologies for said flippancies. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Heather > Perella > Sent: 16 August 2007 21:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MD] Voting (No Way Jos!) > > > Jos, > > This below is your explanation about "hiding in > the woods with SA", and yes, I'm SA so I respond it is > you hiding from the woods for the woods are not > hidden, I definitely am not hiding - have you read my > posts on what kind of job I have. I'm right smack dab > in the middle of society's problem. There is NO way > around the fact that societies problems are where I'm > at on the front lines. Many other people sit in their > house, watch TV, read the paper, and get much of their > knowledge second-hand. Politicians get their > information second hand. If you want to see where our > country is, and where it is going - try working with > youth that have problems and they face a possible > future in prison, which gets into laws and government, > legislation, and how much is actually being down in > our communities. The economic question, housing > question, family question, education question - every > one of these are being dealt with where I work. These > questions are answered where I work. I'm smack dab in > the system, the social system. Think of anything > social in our society, and I'm participating with it. > Think of where any intellectual compassion is going to > trickle into our society and that's where I'm at - > ACTIVELY! > And yes, as I do all this, a bird sings up on the > buckeye branch as I walk down the hill from the > administration building to the residential unit. The > woods are everywhere. > > woods, > SA > > [Jos] > > We still have physical hand counting of votes and > > you physically see it on election night on the TV, > > there are all sorts of observers and the counting > > halls are crawling with journalists and camera > > crews, I admit its an antiquated system but it does > > give you palpable sense of transparency. > > We recently moved to the option of postal voting and > > immediately there was a drop in confidence. > > I think that to lose the visibility alltogether > > would really worry me if it happened here. > > I agree it doesn't pay to be too paranoid about > > these things, and of course wherever theres a will > > theres a way, but as soon as you reduce something to > > data on a speadsheet your ballot becomes just data > > in a cell and its hard to convince yourself that the > > scope for abuse hasn't been increased. I wouldn't > > think it likely that anything sinister was going on > > at high levels, but local activism is a different > > kettle of fish. > > > > Would be interested to hear what your researches > > uncover, as you can probably tell my fragile mind > > has been largely poisoned by Michael Moore. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jos > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of MarshaV > > > Sent: 08 August 2007 11:04 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Voting > > > > > > > > > At 05:59 AM 8/8/2007, you wrote: > > > >Fine, no revolutions in prospect, I think instead > > then you should > > > >get tins of vittles and go hide in the woods with > > SA till Hillary > > > >gets sworn in. > > > > > > Please explain what you mean without the sarcasm. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of MarshaV > > > > > Sent: 08 August 2007 10:49 > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Voting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:03 AM 8/8/2007, you wrote: > > > > > >How low does your confidence the voting > > system have to > > > fall before, > > > > > >you consider the result to be void and take > > to the streets? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jos, > > > > > > > > > > Difficult question. I don't like this depth > > of skepticism. Up to > > > > > now, my exposure to this particular voting > > issue has been rather > > > > > vague and presumptuous. Firsthand experience > > is bringing > > > the problem > > > > > into greater focus, and I am doing some > > research. I > > > believe first > > > > > in the rule-of-law, so I'm not ready to even > > consider > > > > > alternatives. To actually think there is an > > organized effort to > > > > > subvert voting is too much for my mind to > > grasp. Yet I have no > > > > > intentions of sticking my head in the sand > > either. > > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > This email was received from the INTERNET and > > scanned by the > > > Government Secure Intranet Anti-Virus service > > supplied by > > > Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. > > (CCTM > > > Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) In case of > > problems, please > > > call your organisations IT Helpdesk. > > > Communications via the GSi may be automatically > > logged, > > > monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. > > > > > > > > > This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only > > for the > > > attention of the addressee(s). 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