[gav]
> civilisation is the problem.
What is civilization? Why did Maxwell ask, "Can
humanity learn to become Civilized?" I'm going to
read this article to find out.
I believe civilization has different meanings.
Western civilization has come to known as subject v.
object social events. A 'us vs. them' mentality. How
is it Japan, a civilization, has come to find the MoQ
as not very unique? Civilizations can be different.
We can have a MoQ civilization. I believe you may
agree.
[gav]
> civilisation is the imposition of 'order' upon
> nature's 'chaos'. but nature's 'chaos' is implicitly
> ordered. nature is sublime order. when we work
> *against* nature - levelling forests, polluting
> waters, constructing ugliness - we sow disharmony
> which ultimately manifests as world war etc.
> civilisation is nature as other, fear of nature,
> which is fear of self. civilisation is
schizophrenia.
> subject vs object.
I would say this is Western Civilization.
[gav]
> we have an alternative. we can work *with* nature.
> just as we have unparalleled power to destroy, so do
> we have the same power to create - to amplify and
> direct the creative power of nature itself.
> how do we shift to this path? by walking the path
> perhaps....funny how things become obvious once you
> start living them.
Do you completely live this 'with nature'
approach? Do you work somewhere that completely has
this approach? Do you go to a school that has the
approach completely? Do you get your groceries from a
'with nature' completely store? You seem to be
over-simplifying the problem.
[gav]
> do you know that nikola tesla developed wireless
electricity 100
> years ago? his phrase 'harnessing the wheelwork of
nature' is very
> apt. once we begin to work in league with nature
then we
> will leave civilisation behind, and return to life.
It depends on what you believe civilization, but
I do get your drift.
woods, woods, woods,
SA
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