>From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:37:02 -0400 > > > >Dan > >Dreaming, Dan realizes he is dreaming. Dan sees a man sitting in a Yoga >position and marvels at the posture the man holds and how effortlessly >he holds it. Drawing closer Dan realizes it is Dan sitting there in >front of Dan. > >Not Dan is Dan is not Dan. > >Ron: >Dan, >I meant that in an experience is an experience dreamt or not, distinct >for each of us. >as for Dan is Dan is not Dan, only Dan may know.
Dan may not know. For instance: I see myself sitting on the floor in front of me. Who am I? I open my eyes, look up, and see myself standing there looking down at me. Who am I? Am I the sitter or the stander? The watcher or the watched? Subject and object thinking tells me that I have to be one or the other -- I cannot be both. Yet experience tells me different. I am both. So I come to see that to believe in subject and object thinking is a fallacy perpetrated upon me by the culture in which I am ensconced. It's a very powerful illusion though. I want to be me. I need to be me. I fight to be me. I have to be me. Without me there is nothing. Nothing! Only Dan knows. It scares Jesus out of me to think that there is no Dan to know yet I have to flow through the fear if clarity is to be achieved. Or keep believing in the fallacy. But there will be a time when the fallacy comes to an end. For all of us. When death taps me on the shoulder I will be no more. I can go kicking and screaming into that good night or I can go with a sense of equamity knowing full well I never existed to start with and therefore have no reason to fear the supposed end. That which has no beginning has no end. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
