Hi Ian & others Yes. But I am particularly wondering the extent to which the MOQ does need to retain the concept of reason and whether the MOQ needs reason because we need to recognise that experience is full of gaps and perspective limitations. From an MOQ perspective objectivity and reason and useful, probably necessary, human imaginative constructions, constructions that make good sense of our experience is surely what we really mean by reason. We can reason-imagne a more complete picture/concept of the world than we can experience. Of course, there are dangers in this, if we make assumptions and interpretations that place limits on reality that are in fact unnecessary or limiting, such as is the case with SOM. In some ways MOQ removes problematic assumptions made by SOM and in this sense gives us a reduced or purer approach to experience.
Regards David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian glendinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Reason and experience > Hi David, > Agreed ... > > Interestingly I've just been on a vacation that took in Monument > Valley and Grand Canyon ... taking pictures (flat images) cannot do > justice to the 3D scenes. > > The human observer is dynamic - the movements of observer's body and > head exploit the parallax to fill in the depth of field detail that is > not present in any static view. Experience (observation) is dynamic - > the mental faculties (avoiding the word reason for the sake of > argument) are sense-making, filling in the gaps. > > Ian > > On Jan 1, 2008 8:45 PM, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> How do we see reason in the MOQ? >> Do we need it? >> >> I think we do, and I think it is more closely tied to imagination than >> is usually suggested. >> >> Think of a ball. Look at a ball. What do you experience? >> You cannot see a whole ball, it is a sphere but at any one >> moment you can only experience the side facing you. >> Yet memory, previous experience, and imagination >> completes the incomplete experience so that you >> 'see' or comprehend the experience of a ball as being >> of spomething that is a whole sphere that has a side that you >> cannot experience without moving round to the back of the ball. >> >> I propose that reason-imagination is our capacity to complete, >> in a way that makes sense, the gap ridden nature of our direct >> experience. >> >> Agree/disagree? >> >> regards >> David M >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
