About clairvoyance/telepathy, it is indeed possible, according to many events told in the Mahabharata. I'm not so sure about talking to animals, but it seems possible. What I've noticed in many off-shoots of the Vedic religion is that some religions tend to stick to particular ideas and propogat them, hence not being portrayors of the entire Vedic system. One example is Christianity itself, where, mostly it corresponds to a school of Vedanta (Visistadvaita), whereas in the Hindu tradition all the different schools are preserved, instead of Hinduism associating itself with one school because of its popularity.
At least in what Vedic literature I have read (which spans most of the important books, although an interpretation could have revealed lots more, instead of a plain reading), I haven't seen the Zen-style focus on the present moment given such an importance. Of course, in dhyana, you try neither to cultivate thoughts nor to stop them, but to simply be detached from whatever is happening, be yourself. In real life, it's hard to do that, because you're involved in whatever you're doing, you're not just thinking or feeling, you're associating yourself with those feelings. In dhyana, you learn to break those associations, not necessarily to stop some specific feelings/thoughts or to generate some other specific feelings/thoughts, because either behavior is bondage (cf. the three qualities [tri-guna] that make up psychology -- goodness [sattva], activity [rajas], ignorance [tamas] -- in which even goodness is thought to be bondage to the world). I think I could write more, but I simply don't have time. I'm sorry for that. Akshay On 20/01/2008, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Akshay] > "Ergo, let us use the word "Vedic" for the parent > civilisation instead of > Indian. It only happens that in India, the original > dharma was well > preserved unlike the rest of the world (in fact, today > in the West, not even the true spirit of Christianity > is being preserved, let alone the original parent > religion of all). There are a lot of factors to this > -- Indian geography being a very evident factor." > > > SA: The word "civilization" would need to be > understood more maybe, but isn't this analogy kin to > Christianities and Hebrews 'Garden of Eden'? Or, what > of the Time when people could talk with animals and > vice-versa and a harmony far more than what > degenerated came into play? It wasn't that long ago > when shamans are understood. This latter is along the > same wavelength as Australian Aborigines understanding > of 'Dream-time'. Here's a quote from Caryl's essay > that Ant McWatt posted some time ago (maybe in > December) as follows: > > "One way of getting at it is to say that Quality > is the immediate participatory relation with things. > His reflections on Quality are very much in agreement > with modern theories of perception, e.g. as R.L. > Gregory puts it, in Eye and Brain: The Psychology of > Seeing (1966; 1971): "… Objects are far more than > patterns of stimulation; [they] have pasts and > futures; when we know its past or can guess its > future, an object transcends experience and becomes an > embodiment of knowledge and expectation without which > life of even the simplest kind is impossible." Quality > is the immediate experience, our original familiarity > which enables our cognition to become re-cognition." > > > SA: Are these components, 'Vedic/Garden of > Eden/Dream-Time/Quality', that close in kinship? Why > or why not? Is this making sense to anybody? > > woods, > SA > > P.S. If anybody is familiar with M-theory and how > different components are to communicate the same > M-theory, yet, unavoidably these components stay > different but one component without the other > components makes the M-theory not completely > viewed/understood. I'm wondering if this is similar > or not with what is digested above? Is this making > sense to anybody? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
