Jeez Platt,

What on earth has socialism to do with social level thinking ?!?

Chris explained a context of "why he'd call himself a socialist" - the
same kind of intellectual reasoning many a socialist (or social
democrat like I might call myself) would use.

Can you not see any difference between a totalitarian socialists and a
social democrats ?

Can we not switch off the trigger reflex in your head that says
social = raving pinko.
individual = the final word on anything.

Ian

On 2/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> > > Ron:
> > > A relative degree of Harmony between society and it's citizenry.
> > > Progressing
> > > Toward growth and mutual understanding.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I agree. I think the most important thing is to get poverty and
> > conflicts under control SO THAT education and a grand scale improvement of
> > understanding can be created (why I'd call myself a socialist) that is, I
> > believe that mankind can progress and develop new ways of understanding -
> > the MOQ can be a part of that - but to do this, social value patterns and
> > biological ones should be kept well controlled by intellectual ones (in my
> > book that would be "rationality"). As it is today, what I would call social
> > level thinking is controlling much of politics, and thus the whole world.
>
> Congratulations, Chris. You call yourself a socialist. Would that
> other contributors who believe as you do had the courage to do likewise.
> I wonder, however, how a socialist avoids social level thinking. Just asking.
>
> Regards,
> Platt
>
>
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