[Arlo previously] At some instance in the past, "man" spontaneously came into being in more-or-less the form he is today. At this moment, man's consciousness "created" the universe.
If we can forgo (for the moment) the details, would you say that this is more-or-less correct? If not, can you correct it and provide me with a similarly short and succinct synopsis of your ideas on this? [Ham] "Spontaneously" implies independently or unconditionally, and you must understand that I consider existence both conditional and relational. [Arlo] What would you say instead? [Ham] I let the anthropologists decide how Homo sapiens evolved as a distinct species, and to what extent early man differed from modern man. It isn't my expertise or purpose to quarrel with evolutionist theory. [Arlo] I would think this is a critical component of your thesis, Ham. If "man" existed in some "no man" form first, what was the purpose? Because this implies "existence" and "no man" co-occurring. So if the universe did not exist before man, man simply could not have evolved, and must have appeared "fully formed". No? You've repeated your thesis at moderate length, but I am wondering if you could give me a short version, like I've started with above, that would explain this to me. Or is that something you'd say would be impossible? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
