Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > [Krimel]
> > Usually in evolution nothing 'new' is created. What typically happens is a
> > rearrangement of what already exists. One could argue that something new 
> > is created through mutation but this is not how evolution usually works 
> > and even then it is just a radical rearrangement of what already exists.
> >  
> > But chance is the deciding factor. When things change new contingencies
> > arise and the distribution of traits in populations change as a result. 
> > Beak shape and size are the classical examples from Darwin. All the 
> > finches came from the same stock but variation resulted from different 
> > environmental demands as the populations spread out among the islands.
> 
> [Platt]
> Finches beaks may change, but how do you explain the creation of a new
> species?
> 
> [Krimel]
> Those finches _were_ classified as different species. As populations are
> isolated for long periods of time, the distribution of traits changes to the
> point that reproduction between them no longer takes place. It is just a
> matter of time and patience.

A finch is a finch is a finch -- like those white and brown moths in England
who are cited as evidence of evolution. But, my question is: how does a finch
become an eagle? Evolution says over a eons and millions of tiny little
changes. Except, the tiny little changes haven't been found in the fossil 
record.
Instead we see giant leaps, "explosions" and "punctuated equilibriums."  







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