Ham:

In any case, I find Ron's assertion that "our intellectual thoughts are 
dictated by grammar" to be an extreme position that defies common sense
and 
is unsupported by empirical evidence.

Regards,
Ham

Ron:
Well Ham you are not alone. But I thank you for your honest response.
I think humans are able to think and have thoughts but humans who
Use language think in different ways, I think when we intellectualize
We are haggling over how terms are understood. We build conceptions
Upon these understandings.

Empirically I haven't a leg to stand on this issue because anything
I say from here is meaningless. I realize this.

Thanks



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