Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [Krimel] > > You could try the paragraph above. I know there are a few big words there. > > Try sounding them out. Notice the part about "Then one doesn't seek the > > absolute Truth." And the part about "One can then examine intellectual > > realities the same way one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with > > an effort to find out which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to > > enjoy and keep those that are of value." > > [Platt] > Those excerpts say nothing about truth cannot be known. You see things that > aren't there. I think they call that hallucinating. > > [Krimel] > I am neither an expert on nor an advocate for postmodernity but as I > understand it, the crux of the matter is that it challenges the idea that > Truth or and absolute reality can be known. That is exactly what Pirsig says > here, "Then one doesn't seek the absolute Truth." It would seem to be front > and center with his conception of Quality as fundamentally indefinable. It > is not that "truth" can not be known it is that "Truth" can not be known. > > > [Krimel] > > This is a really like postmodern argument here coming from an English > > teacher... Is this starting to come together for you now? That last bit is > > the part that means that if HipHop floats your boat it's as good as > > Shakespeare. Especially, if you don't really care much for Shakespeare. > > [Platt] > Try this to bring you back from Disneyland to reality. "The tests of truth > are logical consistency, agreement with experience, and economy of > explanation." (Lila, 8) If you don't get it at first, write it out 100 > times. Oh, I forgot. Writing is difficult for you. > > [Krimel] > He also makes it clear that there is not just one way to pass these tests. > Sometimes we grade on a curve and often we judge on purely aesthetic > criteria as in, "One can then examine intellectual realities the same way > one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with an effort to find out > which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that > are of value." > > Does it hurt you to find that Pirsig might actually be an evil > postmodernist?
What hurts is your apparent belief that a postmodernist statement like "It's true there is no Truth" is a high quality intellectual pattern. It's self- contradictory and thus profoundly incoherent. But, logic is apparently something you can take or leave at your convenience. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
