Firstly Platt,

Even if I agreed with that single Rorty statement, out of any context
- I fail to see how that supports any point you are making about PoMo
/ Relativism as a whole. So yet another "Platteral Shift".

Secondly Platt, hoist with your own petard again, too - we could
debate what Rorty meant by "reality" in that sentence - but of course
the word "right" is the significant one in the context of Matt's
thread.

We're talking about useful vs right and the fact that some things are
relatively more useful (better value / better quality) than others. A
model of what is "right" is not one of those things.

Take it away Matt.
Ian

On 5/6/08, Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ian,
>
> "No area of culture, and no period of history, gets reality right more than
> any other." -- Richard Rorty
>
> So tell us about your reality, Ian.
>
>
> > Platt,
> >
> > A far cry from the caricature in your head, but not so far in reality
> > - a gap easily brigded - by anyone who cares.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On 5/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > Arlo, Platt
> > > >
> > > > > [Platt] said
> > > > > Pirsig proposes a universal
> > > > > moral order. Postmodernists propose moral relativism.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Both true, a universal moral "order" that "orders" things according to
> > > > their "relative" morality in layers.
> > >
> > > A far cry from postmodernism where it's all relative.
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