At 12:25 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote:
[Marsha]
I'm with you, Chris.  Much (not all) of what is called
medical/medicine is a Capitalistic hoax, and the media is fully
participating in perpetrating that hoax.  I'll trust the medical
establishment when it's primary function is prevention and healing
rather than PROFIT.

[Krimel]
The problem is that most of the people receiving treatment for serious and
long term mental illness are not served in the for profit system. Most are
without means and are unable to hold jobs long enough to receive insurance
benefits. They are more likely to be indigent and or relying on Medicaid to
pay for treatment. Many receive minimal stipends through Social Security
disability.

This is a complex issue and one that has along history. Even in the 1700s
there were periods of enlightened treatment and periods of merely
warehousing the mentally ill. Today partly because of the public expense of
mental hospitals, partly as a result of successful medications and partly as
a result of groups concerned with the civil rights of the mentally ill,
facilities all over the country have closed their doors. It is now estimated
at of the 700,000 homeless people in this country every day, some 30% are
mentally ill.


Greetings Krimel,

Why yes, when people are getting screwed it's always a "complex issue". Frontline had on a couple weeks ago a program: The Medicated Child.

http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/youth-mental-health/pbs-on-psychiatric-drugging-youth


But my complaint was about the medical establishment in general. Surgery as a doctor's first line of defense against inflation. And the pharmaceutical establishment is a perfect example a "complex issue".

        http://www.naturalnews.com/021526.html

        http://hypocrisytoday.com/drugs.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=950DE3D61F3DF935A25757C0A96F948260


First they scare you and then they take your money. They act as if you should never die. But I also saw this happen up close. When my husband was diagnosed with cancer (Melanoma), they had found 3 tumors on his spine, a tumor in his liver, tumors, in his spleen, a tumor in his lungs and a tumor in his adrenal gland. This was December 1995. Of course then recommended an aggressive radiation and chemo program. After the first radiation series there was no change in the tumors, so they gave him an initial hormone treatment to start the chemo program. It blew a hole in his stomach and he was in Intensive Care for 10 days. On the 11th day they started the chemo. When the first round of chemo didn't work, they put him through the radiation program again. He was now some 95 pounds. When that didn't work, the doctors suggested and started a second round of chemo. You see he had a very good Insurance Plan, and this was a new Oncology Unit. When I questioned their strategy, the doctor told me not to take away his "hope". After the first day of the second round of chemo, he said enough, and we called Hospice.

There is no doubt in my mind, it was about the money. I knew, as did the doctors, from the first day he was diagnosed with so many tumors in so many organs, that he was a goner. I won't describe the tortuous side-effects he endured, but they were unnecessary. - I rely on common sense, not drugs or doctors. And I fully accept death as a part of life. You can justify any which way, but I don't trust the medical establishment. I am mightily suspicious of their 'enlightened procedures' when it's the bottom line that counts.


Marsha









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