Hello squonk, and all of you? ? 6. From 3: Proposition A: DQ can be maximised by isolating organic brains from sense experience on an industrial scale.? ? Regarding what you wrote, and what many of you have written, for a very, very, long time:? ? I don't think we are thinking about DQ the proper way. In my view DQ cannot be "maximised" because it is not some "thing" to be maximised. It is not some force that can be contained or understood and it is not - NOT - randomness or flux. DQ is Quality. Pure and simple. Quality. It is constant, it is everywhere and everything at any time. We are, and see static manifestations of Quality that move around in this infinite lake of Quality. The patterns are like ice flakes in a river. Or something like that - my analogies isn't very good I'm afraid - but what I'm getting at is that I see the patterns as manifestations of Quality, manifestations that in various degree can perceive and react to the stimulus of the Eternal Quality (?) that is DQ - and move towards it.? ? Sure, flux and change can be "Dynamic" but what is really meant by that is that when change occurs, that is when a new glimpse of the Eternal Quality can be gained - a glimpse that will be infinitely flawed of course, until we can develop into Archangel observers - or Buddhas perhaps?? ? This way it works out better I think.? ? Regards? ? Chris
Hello Chris, I take your point regarding DQ and maximisation. Thank you. I had been thinking about this myself, and realised i had not put it appropriately. The way i think i should have presented this would be to suggest that static quality blocks DQ. So, rather than say: 6. From 3: Proposition A: DQ can be maximised by isolating organic brains from sense experience on an industrial scale.? I should better say: 6. From 3: Proposition A (modified 22-6-08): Isolating organic brains from sense experience on an industrial scale prevents static patterns?from blocking?DQ. This fits exactly with David's presentation of Pirsig's own?assertions: There are all sorts of powerful and meaningful experiences that don't come through the sense organs. ...it's (DQ) more like the first sense, the most basic, immediate and primary mode of experience. The brains in Proposition A would therefore lack secondary static modes of experience, rather as a baby does. And i have noted on many occasions moq.org members remarking that their new born babies are like little Buddha. Thanks, squonk Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
