[Krimel]: > Frankly, I don't see any sense in what Ham is saying at all.
[Ham] Could we have expected anything more from an existentialist? [Krimel] No but this craven failure address the issue is exactly what we have come to expect from the world's only "Essentialist". But if you are certainly free to take a stab at violating my expectations: A thing can have being without awareness. My computer has being but, AI notwithstanding, it has no awareness. I assume you also have a computer but I have no awareness of it. There was water on Mars that none of us as aware of until recently, yet it did not just suddenly appear and throw itself in front of the Mars rover. In short a thing can have being without awareness either self awareness or the awareness of some other. Awareness on the other hand requires being. It presupposes being. A being must exist prior to its becoming aware of other things that exist. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
