[Platt] Since you omitted my answers to your questions this exchange stops here.
[Arlo] I didn't "omit" anything. The quotations you provided are still in the archives. Why repeat them? They did not address EITHER question (anyone can check their past emails to see that). Your inability to answer, and your attempt to pawn off unrelated quotations as "answers" is what is stopping this exchange. Should you care to actually ANSWER any of these questions (not that you answered any from our last exchange either), I am game. So I will repeat. How does the MOQ refute Hofstadter's view that consciousness is an emergent pattern made possible by the increasing complexity of the substrata under it (biological and inorganic patterns)? According to you, does the MOQ say that consciousness existed before brains? If so, where? Are you saying that "everything is consciousness", replacing "Quality" with "consciousness" as in "inorganic patterns of consciousness"? What about "mind"? Are atoms "inorganic patterns of mind"? Finally, "purpose" too is an intellectual pattern. Do you dispute this? If so, what is it if it is NOT an intellectual pattern? If the MOQ embraces BOTH non-teleological and teleological positions, it must mean that these positions are relativistic to the culture/values from which the question is asked, and as such "purpose" (like all intellectual patterns) emerge from the social-cultural level. Hofstadter would agree with this (in fact he says this very thing in his book). So, actually answer the questions? Or, you could pretend we are all too stupid to read your past emails and act like you really did answer the questions and play "poor ol' picked on Platt" when pressed to actually answer them. My bet is the latter. But you could prove me wrong and actually give me some answers... (Methinks I'll be adding these to long list of avoided and unanswered questions that you use these tactics to try to skip over). As for your article, anyone can write anything. I prefer to let me own personal experiences guide my views. There are problems, deficiencies and areas for improvement in all human endeavors, the Academy is no different, but overall it is Good, notwithstanding the perennial right-wing anti-intellectual assaults. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
