[Arlo]:
Okay. But this simply restates "[consciousness] exists". What I am asking is "where does it come from?" You say repeatedly that you "don't care" (my words), but you obviously do if you dismiss social theories outright. So this "immanent core", was it present in the primates from which we descend? ...If not, then what accounts for its appearance in the evolutionary time-line? What?
If not social participation, and not genetics, then what?

Arlo you are not only asking the question, you are "begging the question" in the logical sense.

My answer is that consciousness comes from "on high", from the Source, the Creator, Essence. But you're not satisfied with my answer. You want me to say that consciousness is either a genetically-formed component of the central nervous system or a socially-formed concept of self-identity. You want me to date its emergence as an evolved organ and localize it anatomically.

Throughout this discussion I have stressed the point that conscious awareness is not an 'existent' -- not an object of nature nor a product of social culture. I've stated that, because it is not a "thing", consciousness can't be localized, quantified, or observed. Rather, it is the individuated (finite) locus of Absolute Sensibility, which is a negated attribute of Essence. Consciousness can only participate in existence through the objectivization of value. This actualizes Being, starting with the physiological organism (with which it is identified) and continuing with an apprehension of external reality intellectualized through experience.

This is my epistemological thesis. It is NOT an anthropological conclusion or a sociological paradigm of the kind that you seem to demand. Apparently, you are unable to comprehend subjectivity as anything but a subset of objectivity. You are an intelligent, knowledgeable, self-seeking person like all of us; yet you refuse to acknowledge that your conscious awareness is "the real" Arlo Bensinger. Instead you imagine yourself as a social appendage that somehow resulted from a complex integration of inorganic and organic matter in the course of evolution.

Considering the narrow perspective of your worldview, it's a wonder to me that can understand Pirsig's Quality heirarchy, much less Ham's Essentialism.

I'm sorry you can't accept my explanation, Arlo, although it doesn't surprise me, based on our previous correspondence.

Best wishes,
Ham

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