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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Space

[Krimel]
> I am suspicious of altered states in general as guides to "what it's
all about". 

Craig
Whether we loses track of time/space by altered states or otherwise,
time/spacedoes not lose track of us.  As Phaedrus showed, cigarettes will
still burndown to your fingers & you'll still wet your pants.

[Krimel]
A good point that is lost on some who want to paint mental disorders as some
kind of higher state of being.


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