Bo: If we strike out "intellectual" from "whether an intellectual model of reality must be included in reality itself." it's a different issue, namely the Godel Theorem about no theory/system being totally closed. This one must be really nutty to hope to avoid.
Ron: Godel's Therom, by the way, states that some parts of mathematics are based on ideas that cannot be proven within the system of mathematics. MATHEMATICS Bo, Mathematics is not reality, that's kinda what ole Kurt was trying to say about any system/model with his theorem. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
