Hi mel (Melvin?)
14 Sep. you wrote:
> Otherwise, just a regular guy on a regular street
> inclined to disappear in the crowd, but with
> a sense of humor...pretty boring really, but
> hoping this beauty pagent has no swimsuit
> portion. (Sorry for the fippancy, but otherwise
> all that's left is "read ZMM / Lila and am boring.)
Good enough introduction
Bo
> > "...flashes through perception before ...etc." makes it sound as if
> > there is a perception prior to Quality. This was valid in ZAMM where
> > SOM ("intellect" in retrospect) was the only (static) fallout and it
> > (SOM) presupposes a perceiving subject (and P. of ZAMM reasoned from
> > SOM's premises) but in the MOQ one can't speak about perception
> > prior to anything.
ml
> Precicely. Which made the assignment of "GOOD" post cognition
> and at a definite remove, and speaking about it even more so.
> (From your modification of my response I think we are on the same page
> regarding this, but my incomplete response left room for implications
> not intended.)
> As to the word 'perception' this gets a little sticky to discuss and
> likely definition-bound. However one describes it, whatever word or
> phrase that you find most useful, there is a definite ...mmmm
> 'awareness-of-consciousness-of' that preceeds cognition.
The MOQ is "sticky to discuss" because a metaphysical shift in the
original sense (no one living in a ordered universe can avoid
metaphysics) has never before been undertaken. The Aretê-SOM (in
Q retrospect: Social - Intellectual) transition took centuries and after
the first true SOMist (intellectual) Aristotle metaphysics has been the
"theory about reality" - not the "reality itself" - kind. Therefore all the
good people of this discussion can write straightforward as if the MOQ
is just another (Aristotelian) theory while this person must use a lot of
parenthesis and clauses .... "have to resolve a metaphysical dispute
at the end of each sentence".
Will return to some of the other points soon.
Bo
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