oh if only the conspiracies were true....dionysian revelry for all. manichean dualisms like god and the devil are useful for controlling people. look at rome. look at the US.
of course the archetype of the devil has a few meanings. pan/dionysius/green man is one of them - nature spirit. the demonisation of pan in this sense is the demonisation of nature (necessary prelude to raping it for profit). i think faust is important here too: the devil is the subtle voice of greed, power, knowledge that seduces the intellectual seeker away from the path of truth (knowledge instead of truth). and also blake - the marriage of heaven and hell. and dante of course. and orpheus. in short the only way to heaven is through hell. hell is the place where the ego dies and the individual is born. the devil is a very interesting chap....or lass. mythically potent and ironic: the devil works by seducing/tricking one into hell, which is necessary for the individuation process. ie even when he lies cheats and steals the devil is still in your corner. --- On Fri, 17/10/08, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] opposing view to zeigeist > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Friday, 17 October, 2008, 4:01 AM > Compelling? Seriously? If you believe there's a global > satanic conspiracy then you'll believe anything. That is > tin-hat stuff of the worst kind. It has got to be one of the > most hateful, paranoid, ignorant things I've ever seen. > It would be laughable if it weren't so creepy. Sir, with > all due respect, you apparently have no capacity to judge > the merits of an idea and have no business discussing > philosophy of any kind. Please go away. > > > Squaredwood said: > > Here is a very interesting look at Lucifian cults > and > > other secret societies in the United Nations and how > > their ideas are also injected into the U.N. and other > > societies that want a New World Order. Also how > > zeigeist unknowing, or intentionally follows these > Lucifier > > cults and secert societies. So this is an opposing > view > > of zeigeist one I found very compelling. Would like > to > > hear what other people say about this: > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live > Hotmail. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
