whoops, didn't mean to send that without commenting obviously.


Krimel:
I really am the one who should be
apologizing since I was actually making fun of your posts on the Federal
Reserve banks, monetary policy, the gold standard and so forth.

woods:
    My only beef with the Federal Reserve is it is a private bank and it makes 
gov't policies that contributed to this economic crisis.  It's those that think 
that the Federal Reserve is Federal that is misleading.  It's the same Federal 
Express.  That is also a private company.  With banking it is a story of power. 
 
Beyond what I'm saying here, we would need to be specific, because I'm sure 
there is a lot that floats around that is false.
    Monetary policy.  That's too general.  Don't know what you mean.
    Gold standard.  Here I'm just pointing out inflation and why commodity 
prices 
have sky-rocketed, people work more than two jobs more and more, and both 
parents 
have to work more and more and thus, day cares a popping up all over the place. 
 
It's basic economics that state that if you pumped the system with more printed 
money 
inflation occurs.  This is all basic historical economics that I'm talking 
about.


Krimel:
I lump all such talk in with Bush blowing up the WFT, the Mayan prophesies, the 
10th
planet, alien Gods, morphogenic fields and the
international-judeo-lesbo-Rothchild-masonic-CIA-Illuminati conspiracy to
control minds.

woods:
    This stuff I really don't know about, and I haven't discussed it.  I 
haven't looked 
into this stuff that much at all.  One mind control, brainwashing type stuff 
that we 
all agree upon is how the media shapes the debate in the U.S.  For instance, 
as Ron Paul was running for president and he was still in the race and had a 
big voter 
base and money coming in to help him, he was in every debate until Fox news 
channel 
held a debate before the New Hampshire primaries.  They left Ron Paul out of 
the debate 
on purpose.  It was planned.  Planned in the sense that they wouldn't let him 
join the debate.  As much as Ron Paul was getting more money and contributions, 
thus, 
a big voter base than the other candidates at the time, he still was left out.  
Why?  I don't 
know, but it is obvious Fox news was shaping the debate.  We all can come up 
with examples, I'm sure, as to what is on TV and how low value this dumbing 
down 
streaming of information is.  Sure I watch TV and sometimes I find something 
interesting, 
but it's mainly entertainment and shouldn't be considered the main source of 
education.  Yet, 
meanwhile the education is failing in the U.S., so, it would seem decent 
educational resources 
are not being taken advantage of by some unnumbered amount of the U.S. 
population.


Krimel:
I really don't think such things are worth considering beyond
their sheer entertainment value. There are not two sides to such matters
unless you count sense and nonsense.
I ran into a bit a poetry many years ago that sums up my thoughts on such
topics:
"They are pumping shit 
>From beneath the house at dawn.
I refuse to get up and see 
What I can damn well smell."



woods:
   I think my intellectual take on why I'm opposed to zeitgeist came out with 
my exchange with Carl recently.  The whole idea that people can save other 
people and come up with programs to further domesticate, regulate, and corral 
people only furthers the problem.  We shouldn't be handicapping people.  What 
would encourage a riddance of problems would be to inspire people and helping 
people realize how much people can do on their own.  Meanwhile 
we're always put into some kind of panic and gov't has to step in and feel 
as if they can solve all the problems and do everything for everybody.  So, 
people are put into positions of irrelevance.  It's this trickle down 
philosophy that 
I don't get.  Not trickle down economics, even though that's part of it, but 
it's 
this trickle down philosophy and another way to put it, this exterior 
philosophy 
that all answers are out there, found in somebody else doing it for you, and 
thus, 
the leading to a dumb downed, forgetfulness public or person in which their 
own value, inside, is pushed to the side as something inferior.  That's what 
goes 
along with this trickle down philosophy.  This kind of philosophy keeps 
over-laying 
static patterns, over and over again, suffocating a sovereign moral mind.


woods     

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